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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/09/20 12:34 PM
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hill.brandonj
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Welcome. Your above statement about the blackout is exactly where I’ve been!!! I have some 125g pro hunters and 135 ftx on their way now. I won’t have brass though. I ordered some boxes from Wilson. But they only had one of the item numbers I ordered but that box at least. Is on its way. Yay!
I scored some cfe blk last week local. And I already have aa1680. Just need brass Oh and my upper! It should be here any day now
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: hill.brandonj]
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12/09/20 05:57 PM
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IRUAK88
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I just got the exact same one 2 days ago. It's easily the best one out there! It actually bolts to Harbor freights mini chop saw and is adjustable for more precise cutting closer to trim length. I had the wikibuy (now Capital one shopping) plugin on my browser and saved $2.
I've been using Squirrel Daddy's 300blk jig for a few years as well as his Hardened lee universal decapping rods (which are a must buy) converted plenty of brass to trade, sell, or load for friends. The elite3d design one has a detent (instead of a rim notch) to hold the case in place and when you feed a new one it literally ejects the chopped one.
I'd recommend using sized .223/5.56 beass before chopping, and perhaps even a swage gauge set from ballistic advantage to ensure your primer pockets are good to go. Years back I bought what I thought was a really good deal on processed 5.56 brass from gunbroker and come to find out someone dumped their over swaged scrap brass on me!
Last edited by IRUAK88; 12/09/20 05:58 PM.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/09/20 08:27 PM
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tdd4570
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Good Afternoon!!
I have questions and it looks like this is the place for answers. All I see is AR related. I have a bolt related question.
I have a Rem 700 in .300 BLK. 1-7" twist.
I know the 1-7" twist isn't optimal, but I'm too cheap to change barrels currently. Is it wortwhile to rechamber from BLK to Ham'r in this barrel? I'm seeing the 300 fps difference with 125 gr bullets, can I achieve that with the faster twist?
At least with the Rem 700 I won't have to worry about mag length.
Thanks for the help and point me in the right direction.
Dave
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/10/20 02:36 AM
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IRUAK88
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After looking over several 300blk forums people seem to get good accuracy using 110-125's on 1:7 barrels. My buddies all shoot 1:8, mostly subsonic but they still group decently with some lighter bullets. First thing I'd do is find a local gunsmith near you and find if they can ream the 700 chamber & headspace it for you. I'd ask how much it'd set you back and a time frame. I know some of my local Smith's are literally months out on available openings for any work. Then check this out. https://4drentals.com/product/300-hamr/I thought about going that route.. But in the end of the day I don't think Bill and his team spent all of their time, money, and effort to ring out every bit of performance they could from a .223/5.56 based .30cal cartridge and not put Great thought into what barrel lengths, twists, and gas setups (if applicable) would be best suited for the new cartridge. I wish you the best in your quest for a HAM'R bolt gun
Last edited by IRUAK88; 12/10/20 02:36 AM.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: hill.brandonj]
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12/10/20 01:24 PM
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DavidK
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Easy to convert brass, but easier to buy it from Wilson Combat in my opinion and you know it's right. Have to think about time to convert etc.
Wilson Combat Pro Staff
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/10/20 02:01 PM
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tdd4570
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IRUAK88 Thanks for the link.
Initially I had thought about going to the 300 / 223 the old wildcat on the full length 223 case, but custom dies, etc... means more expense.
Can anyone recommend a gunsmith in the Houston area or along the IH-45 corridor to ream to Ham'r?
Thanks again.
Dave
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: DavidK]
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12/10/20 03:23 PM
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hill.brandonj
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Sure it’s easier to buy it. But there’s literally none anywhere to buy .....
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/10/20 03:24 PM
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Graycard
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I know the 1-7" twist isn't optimal, but I'm too cheap to change barrels currently. Is it wortwhile to rechamber from BLK to Ham'r in this barrel? It can be done, but I would not bet on the best performance. The crew at WC tried about everything possible to get a cartridge like the 300 HAM'R. You would be rolling the dice on the results. Easy to convert brass, but easier to buy it from Wilson Combat in my opinion and you know it's right. Have to think about time to convert etc.
I have gone both routes. The factory brass from WC is outstanding and I'm using close to 2,000 rounds of it. But my hunting/reloading buddies and I have had a few "Forming Parties" over at my place. It gives us a chance to shoot the bull and get our 300 HAM'R brass at the same time. One will chop, one will form and the last will do the final trim. All of us have ended up with a few thousand cases each and we have solved the World's Problems in the process. My wife thinks we are a bunch of little old ladies at a sewing bee. All of us favor the 300 HAM'R over any other AR-15 cartridge for hunting, but all of us also favor it as the best defensive round ever introduced in the AR-15. You can never have too many rounds.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Graycard]
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12/10/20 03:37 PM
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hill.brandonj
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Few thousand rounds geez. I’d be content with two hundred I don’t shoot that much. I like the load development process for a new gun when I get it. And then I safe it. Bring it out for deer hunting etc None of this wild [censored] hog hunting y’all do. We just trap ours. 10-20 at a time. And then dispatch them with something cheap. 7.62x39. Or 22 wmr
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/10/20 04:00 PM
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Graycard
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I'll go hog hunting once every few years when I get an invitation, but I am a avid deer hunter. However, several times a week you can find me at my range and I do go through a lot of ammo. It is good therapy and keeps me in practice. I'm too old to "run and gun" with the younger boys, but I can "shuffle and shoot" with the best of them!"
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Dzhitshard]
#8083890
12/10/20 05:19 PM
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Wilson Combat
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Has anyone loaded the Speer 150gr SP #2023 with success?
I grabbed them thinking they were part number #2022 from the recommended list but noticed I was off a number a few days later when I shuffled the boxes on the bench.
I can't find specifics on the Speer site & I wasn't sure if the ogive was located in the same place as the #2022 so I could use similar charge & COAL data. With parts being unobtanium right now I'm not real excited about being a lab monkey.
I also found some OLD Remington 150gr RNCL that may be worth a shot later next year if things are still as bleak as they seem now. On the really off chance anyone has successfully worked something up for them I'd be interested to hear about it. Sorry for the delay in response, been kinda busy lately........ I've tried the #2023 flat base and it shoots OK, not great but OK in my barrels. But due to the increased bearing surface and the tougher jacket it gets to max pressure at lower velocity. I wouldn't push it past 2250fps out of a 16" and would have concerns about reliable expansion past 150yds or so. As I remember you can load it to 2.255" and stay off the lands, but you might ck this to make sure.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Wilson Combat]
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12/10/20 05:23 PM
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SwatDude1
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I get this is a hunting forum but it is just absolutely the best all around 300 HAM'R thread on the internet. Just wondering...
With Bill partnering with Sig for SAAMI cert on the 300 HAM'R, what are the chances of it showing up in a Sig Rattler anytime soon?
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: hill.brandonj]
#8083930
12/10/20 06:01 PM
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Wilson Combat
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Sure it’s easier to buy it. But there’s literally none anywhere to buy ..... We just received a large shipment of cases in, abet at a higher price........ They should be back in stock in a few days 100ct brass $30.00 500ct brass $142.50 100ct nickel $34.00 We're supposed to receive another shipment of cases in early February along with a LARGE shipment of Speer 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR bullets
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Wilson Combat]
#8084008
12/10/20 07:10 PM
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hill.brandonj
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Hell yeah!! My names been on the “notify me” list. Hopefully I’ll get an email soon enough. Thank you for the heads up!!!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Wilson Combat]
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12/11/20 12:24 AM
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Dzhitshard
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Has anyone loaded the Speer 150gr SP #2023 with success?
I grabbed them thinking they were part number #2022 from the recommended list but noticed I was off a number a few days later when I shuffled the boxes on the bench.
I can't find specifics on the Speer site & I wasn't sure if the ogive was located in the same place as the #2022 so I could use similar charge & COAL data. With parts being unobtanium right now I'm not real excited about being a lab monkey.
I also found some OLD Remington 150gr RNCL that may be worth a shot later next year if things are still as bleak as they seem now. On the really off chance anyone has successfully worked something up for them I'd be interested to hear about it. Sorry for the delay in response, been kinda busy lately........ I've tried the #2023 flat base and it shoots OK, not great but OK in my barrels. But due to the increased bearing surface and the tougher jacket it gets to max pressure at lower velocity. I wouldn't push it past 2250fps out of a 16" and would have concerns about reliable expansion past 150yds or so. As I remember you can load it to 2.255" and stay off the lands, but you might ck this to make sure. I cant thank you enough for that info. Saves me a lot of time that is already too valuable. I was curious if the #2023 would have expansion limits given the verbiage of the speer descriptions between it and the #2022. I completely passed over the increased bearing surface factor. I guess I'll keep feeding the hogs my prohunter 125gr loads until February if I run out of my factory 130gr loads. I put a couple dozen pigs to sleep with the PH & TNT max loads as a test my last trip. Most went out quick but I got into a couple pretty decent sized ones that needed DJ levels of lead sauce make them stop trying to get away.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/11/20 12:18 PM
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hill.brandonj
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Brass back in stock email bright and early today. Ordered. Thanks Mr W!!!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: hill.brandonj]
#8085024
12/11/20 02:23 PM
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Wilson Combat
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Brass back in stock email bright and early today. Ordered. Thanks Mr W!!! Nickel cases will be up on Monday
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Dzhitshard]
#8085027
12/11/20 02:25 PM
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Wilson Combat
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Has anyone loaded the Speer 150gr SP #2023 with success?
I grabbed them thinking they were part number #2022 from the recommended list but noticed I was off a number a few days later when I shuffled the boxes on the bench.
I can't find specifics on the Speer site & I wasn't sure if the ogive was located in the same place as the #2022 so I could use similar charge & COAL data. With parts being unobtanium right now I'm not real excited about being a lab monkey.
I also found some OLD Remington 150gr RNCL that may be worth a shot later next year if things are still as bleak as they seem now. On the really off chance anyone has successfully worked something up for them I'd be interested to hear about it. Sorry for the delay in response, been kinda busy lately........ I've tried the #2023 flat base and it shoots OK, not great but OK in my barrels. But due to the increased bearing surface and the tougher jacket it gets to max pressure at lower velocity. I wouldn't push it past 2250fps out of a 16" and would have concerns about reliable expansion past 150yds or so. As I remember you can load it to 2.255" and stay off the lands, but you might ck this to make sure. I cant thank you enough for that info. Saves me a lot of time that is already too valuable. I was curious if the #2023 would have expansion limits given the verbiage of the speer descriptions between it and the #2022. I completely passed over the increased bearing surface factor. I guess I'll keep feeding the hogs my prohunter 125gr loads until February if I run out of my factory 130gr loads. I put a couple dozen pigs to sleep with the PH & TNT max loads as a test my last trip. Most went out quick but I got into a couple pretty decent sized ones that needed DJ levels of lead sauce make them stop trying to get away. Hornady has been shipping the 135FTX lately and it's an excellent choice for deer and hogs
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/11/20 02:33 PM
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Hayabusa1321
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Mr. Wilson I purchased 4 18" 300 Ham'r barrels. 3 were urban super snipers and 1 ultra lite. After missing that traditional intermediate length gas tubes won't work. We scoured the internet looking for your proprietary length needed and the only place that shows in stock (which are actually not in stock) was optics planet.
I and the 3 friends I talked into the Ham'r are left with non functioning guns. Is there any help you can direct me towards either thru wilson combat or maybe another source to purchase these. Most places for parts even your website show discontinued for most 18".
We are very excited to start shooting the guns and any help is greatly appreciated from 4 new customers.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Hayabusa1321]
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12/11/20 04:14 PM
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RRTX
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Mr. Wilson I purchased 4 18" 300 Ham'r barrels. 3 were urban super snipers and 1 ultra lite. After missing that traditional intermediate length gas tubes won't work. We scoured the internet looking for your proprietary length needed and the only place that shows in stock (which are actually not in stock) was optics planet.
I and the 3 friends I talked into the Ham'r are left with non functioning guns. Is there any help you can direct me towards either thru wilson combat or maybe another source to purchase these. Most places for parts even your website show discontinued for most 18".
We are very excited to start shooting the guns and any help is greatly appreciated from 4 new customers.
Thanks in advance! Brownell's shows to have the Wilson intermediate (13.25") length gas tubes in stock. Brownell's
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/11/20 04:34 PM
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Hayabusa1321
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Brownells is showing them in stock as of this morning ordering 4 more from them.
Any members on here cut down and used a different length gas tube? That is my next route if these don't ship.
Thanks RRTX
Last edited by Hayabusa1321; 12/11/20 04:35 PM.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: Hayabusa1321]
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12/11/20 05:08 PM
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RRTX
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Typically if Brownell's shows it as in stock after you place your order you will be fine, just expect a few days before they actually get it out the door.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/11/20 05:45 PM
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vhr1079
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Can anyone speak to the accuracy/performance differences between the original #2007 130 HC and the WC exclusive #2004 130 HHC bullet?
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R
[Re: dlrz71]
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12/11/20 06:59 PM
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Hayabusa1321
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Green Horn
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The tactical hunter 18" 300 hamr shows on wilson combat website it takes a mid length gas tube.
Any reason why that 18" would use a different length gas tube?
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