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COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 04:51 PM
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I checked all the different rules in Fairview and didn’t find anything against shooting a pellet gun in a safe manner. So I put a steel bullet trap at 30Y and improvised a “private” shooting range. The rifle is a Air Arms TX200 in 0.177 with a cheap CenterPoint scope. The rifle is arguably the best production springer that you can buy. The trigger is adjustable but I haven’t changed the factory setting as the break rivals some of the best CF triggers. The 0.177 pellet is very sensitive to wind. At 30Y, with the pellet it likes, I can get shoot it in the 0.3s With a slight wind, as you can see, the groups open up. I’ve ordered a few other brands of pellet to see if I can get even better accuracy. I’m seriously having as much fun as shooting my other guns.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 05:08 PM
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Nice. I have a RWS in 177 and a Beeman in 22 but they are both so loud I might get the neighbors' attention if I shot them here in town. Are you shooting through the wrought iron fence? Or opening the gate?
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 05:14 PM
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I’d like to get a good CO2 air rifle. I’ve already got a good air pistol in 22 caliber so I want a good 22 air rifle now. What rifle do I want? I’ll need a scope on it.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 05:21 PM
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I love it! Did something similar. Bought my 1st Red Ryder BB Gun, and set up duck decoy's and empty beer cans out back. Having a blast with it and Busch Light is officially dead!
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 06:56 PM
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 07:19 PM
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I picked up a Gamo break barrel air gun at Academy this weekend. It was marked down to $63.00 and I wanted something to plunk with. I was shocked at how fast this gun shoots (1250 FPS). I understand it doesn’t shoot that fast, but it’s still smoking. It’s been a nice was to let if steam from working long hours and being locked down.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 09:39 PM
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I picked up a Gamo break barrel air gun at Academy this weekend. It was marked down to $63.00 and I wanted something to plunk with. I was shocked at how fast this gun shoots (1250 FPS). I understand it doesn’t shoot that fast, but it’s still smoking. It’s been a nice was to let if steam from working long hours and being locked down. With powerful air rifles it's best to use heavier pellets to keep velocity below the speed of sound. It's not as loud and you typically get better accuracy.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/15/20 11:02 PM
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Thanks for the info. I picked up a Gamo break barrel air gun at Academy this weekend. It was marked down to $63.00 and I wanted something to plunk with. I was shocked at how fast this gun shoots (1250 FPS). I understand it doesn’t shoot that fast, but it’s still smoking. It’s been a nice was to let if steam from working long hours and being locked down. With powerful air rifles it's best to use heavier pellets to keep velocity below the speed of sound. It's not as loud and you typically get better accuracy.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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04/17/20 12:09 PM
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For, quiet, I shoot a 22, no powder, Colibri. Good for up to maybe 40 ft.
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Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/01/20 02:15 AM
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For, quiet, I shoot a 22, no powder, Colibri. Good for up to maybe 40 ft. Colibri’s energy, depending on the version, is between 8 and 16ft/lbs. My air gun produces 16 ft/lbs of energy and is accurate at 50Y and longer. Also, it’s not legal to shoot 22lr in Collin County. I wish it was, but it’s not. Here’s another target shot today. I’m testing some other pellets. I’m averaging 0.517” at 30Y with H&N Baracuda Match 10.65gr. This is with the 4.52 mm version. I’m getting some flyers with the 4.50 mm version. Shooting a high-quality springer is really fun……
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/01/20 03:13 AM
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What a sweet rifle. That is really good shooting with a springer. Nice. I have a RWS in 177 and a Beeman in 22 but they are both so loud I might get the neighbors' attention if I shot them here in town. Are you shooting through the wrought iron fence? Or opening the gate? If that is an RWS 34, putting a sub-12 fpe Vortek kit in it. I have one in mine and it is very quiet. Also a very mild mannered gun and accurate. Will hold about 1.5" for ten shots at 44 yards if I do my part. I’d like to get a good CO2 air rifle. I’ve already got a good air pistol in 22 caliber so I want a good 22 air rifle now. What rifle do I want? I’ll need a scope on it. Give the benjamin discovery a try. It is a PCP rifle and can be bought with a hand pump for around $330. That is what I paid for mine. If it is a bit loud for you, you can always put a TKO "lead dust collector" on it.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/01/20 11:24 AM
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Kevin, according to local cops, an air rifle, even a BB gun is illegal to shoot in city limits. I found that out the hard way.
The 22 colibri , no powder, has virtually no sound. They aren’t accurate beyond about 30 to 40 ft so they are only good for practicing trigger pull/squeeze and sight pic.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/01/20 10:11 PM
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I shoot the Diana model 48 in 22 cal. Great trigger, very accurate, killed jackrabbits at surprising distances.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/02/20 03:33 AM
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This is similar to mine from the crosman custom shop, in 22 cal. Also have other barrels I have switched out.
Last edited by Tin Head; 05/02/20 03:35 AM.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/02/20 06:08 PM
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I’m taking this new airgun hobby to another level…
I just ordered a chronograph (Competition Electronics ProChrono DLX Chronograph). I already have a Magnetospeed, but it won’t work with my setup.
I also ordered a Vortek PG3 SHO-Tune Kit. This kit is supposed to give a smoother shot cycle. You can also reduce power from 16 to 12 ft/lbs which could increase accuracy. I’m planning to measure the speed and SD for various pellets before and after tuning. I’ll also play with different power outputs of the tuning kit.
I’m really enjoying this new path. It’s as enjoyable as tweaking and doing load development or ammo selection for your CF or 22lr, but for much cheaper and right in your backyard.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/02/20 07:51 PM
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I’m taking this new airgun hobby to another level…
I just ordered a chronograph (Competition Electronics ProChrono DLX Chronograph). I already have a Magnetospeed, but it won’t work with my setup.
I also ordered a Vortek PG3 SHO-Tune Kit. This kit is supposed to give a smoother shot cycle. You can also reduce power from 16 to 12 ft/lbs which could increase accuracy. I’m planning to measure the speed and SD for various pellets before and after tuning. I’ll also play with different power outputs of the tuning kit.
I’m really enjoying this new path. It’s as enjoyable as tweaking and doing load development or ammo selection for your CF or 22lr, but for much cheaper and right in your backyard.
Sounds like you are all in! That is very exciting. Starting with a TX200... I will be looking for you on youtube, lol
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 04:55 AM
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Just for you Bryan C The Vortex kit finally arrived today. I installed it and shot two strings of 10 shots. The gun shoots much smoother and makes less noise. The weather was pretty bad and I couldn't test the accuracy, but I'm sure it has improved. Below is the chrony export for the shots. I got an SD of 3fps for one string and 4 fps for the other string.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 05:02 AM
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That is awesome!
Did you install it as is, or adjust the tophat at all? The new adjustable tophat in the PG3 kit is very interesting.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 05:11 AM
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I didn't adjust it at all. The top hat was already setup on the higher power. It did slightly increase my muzzle velocity (by 15 to 20 fps). I don't think I'll play with different power output and will just leave it like this. It will be interesting to see it settles down and see by how much the accuracy has improved.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 05:22 AM
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I look forward to those targets
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 04:32 PM
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Kevin, according to local cops, an air rifle, even a BB gun is illegal to shoot in city limits. I found that out the hard way. Not always, based on what I've read on the subject. It appears air guns are legal in many incorporated areas so long as the pellets stay on your property, as would be the case if using your own shooting range with a sufficient backstop. It's my understanding the more restrictive state laws include guns that use explosive gases to drive a projectile. IMHO, it's one of those cases where you should call the local DA's office, rather than the local PD to learn the real truth. Source
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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05/16/20 04:59 PM
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I've never done that much homework with it to be honest. Either your neighbors are cool or they are not, or they are too far away to worry about. Neighbors make or break you, if they like to shoot then you should have a backyard range.
If you want to shoot a high powered PCP then that's a different story.
Worst case- maybe you are limited to shooting coke cans with a red ryder in the garage or basement. Don't knock the red ryder, good trigger time and a lot of fun. Great way to unwind after work too.
I believe the red ryders can be had with adult lop as an option now as well.
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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10/11/20 02:13 AM
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A quick follow-up on this. I haven't shot much this rifle after installing the tuning kit. I finally took it out today and shot it at 30Y. Almost no wind. All 5 shot groups. Accuracy is OK, but I can't explain the shift in POI. I've marked the sequence of the groups from 1 to 11. Maybe the cheap Center Point isn't holding zero..... [img] https://i.imgur.com/LKCXdU2.jpg?1[/img]
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Re: COVID-19: Time to shoot air guns!
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10/21/20 08:52 PM
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In addition to the tuning kit, the rifle has now a Vortek seal as well. The chrono numbers are amazing! SD 1 fps ES 5 fps I had to delete at least 5 shots because the chrono was giving the same velocity as the previous shot....I guess with an SD of 1 fps, that is to be expected and is not necessary a duplicate error.
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