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09/26/20 03:44 AM
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Any you fellers hot rod a ruger Blackhawk and kill a deer or two? What distance? About what was your load?
I have some 250 xtp mag bullets, and about 3 flavors of hard cast.. also have h110, imr 4227, and 2400 to play with.
Was thinking about 18 grains or so of 2400 with a hard cast 255 semi wad cutter..
Any starting point s y’all wanna share is appreciate it.
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09/26/20 05:24 AM
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I use 300g hard cast and H110. It’s hard on them pigs out of the Marlin.
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09/26/20 06:18 AM
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My bear load is a 300 gr bull-x cast in front of 21 gr of H-110,out of a ruger Bisley 7 1/2 in. Very accurate hard hitting load.never shot a bear but will knock the squeal right out of a rooter. 😁
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09/26/20 06:27 AM
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Never shot them with the 45 colt but have killed a few with a 44 spcl an 44 mag. No reason a 45 colt will not do it. Was a close shot about 15 yards but killed one deer with the 45ACP with a 230gr PMC factory load, punched both lungs and it went about 50 yards and piled up. The bullet on that one was under the hide at the offside shoulder.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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09/26/20 02:02 PM
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Max charge of h110 and that xtp ought to do real good
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09/26/20 08:40 PM
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I loaded 7 cases up it’s all I could find that had been shot.. may pull some bullets, but I loaded 20.6 grains of H110 which is a ruger only load so I guess I’ll shoot these 7 and see how they group.. I’m glad my pistol is magna ported!
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09/26/20 10:52 PM
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I use both single action and levergun in 45 Colt. One WT buck at 51 yards, Ruger Bisley, 300 gr lead, H110 8 axis, 1wt 255RF lead. Unique. All 1 shot
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I loaded 7 cases up it’s all I could find that had been shot.. may pull some bullets, but I loaded 20.6 grains of H110 which is a ruger only load so I guess I’ll shoot these 7 and see how they group.. I’m glad my pistol is magna ported!
If you don’t mind once fired, pm me your address and I will send you some brass. I have plenty.
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I loaded 7 cases up it’s all I could find that had been shot.. may pull some bullets, but I loaded 20.6 grains of H110 which is a ruger only load so I guess I’ll shoot these 7 and see how they group.. I’m glad my pistol is magna ported!
If you don’t mind once fired, pm me your address and I will send you some brass. I have plenty. I don’t mind 1x or 2x or even 3x fired, I’ll pay something for it and your trouble and sent you a pm.. Thank you I appreciate it!
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09/27/20 02:21 AM
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I use both single action and levergun in 45 Colt. One WT buck at 51 yards, Ruger Bisley, 300 gr lead, H110 8 axis, 1wt 255RF lead. Unique. All 1 shot
Good to hear, how’s that recoil on 300gr h110 load? Is it snappier than a hot 44 mag?
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Bisley recoil very manageable. Spent much time shooting at 50 yards to gain proficiency.
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09/27/20 03:03 AM
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22.2g is within Ruger only data and is as snappy as I want. It can be unpleasant with the wrong grip. It’s a beast out of the Marlin.
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09/27/20 04:25 AM
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https://www.johnlinebaughcustomsixguns.com/writings#:~:text=45%20Colt%20-%20Dissolving%20the%20Myth%2C%20Discovering%20the,little%20did%20they%20realize%20what%20they%20had%20created.
If you have not read the article by John Linebaugh I suggest you do so. He supplies information about the 45 Colt.
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That was an excellent article, I’m gonna measure by cylinder bores and I may even slug my barrel.
Thanks!
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I've taken deer with the XTP in a Blackhawk, and now use it in a new-to-me Marlin as well. You mentioned having XTP "mag" bullets... The regular XTPs I use are #45200; there's also a Mag version, #45220, that's intended for higher velocities such as from a Casull. I've loaded and shot the mags, but recovered slugs from the backstop showed little to no expansion.
Me and ol' RUGER, 74 years and still shooting.
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I've taken deer with the XTP in a Blackhawk, and now use it in a new-to-me Marlin as well. You mentioned having XTP "mag" bullets... The regular XTPs I use are #45200; there's also a Mag version, #45220, that's intended for higher velocities such as from a Casull. I've loaded and shot the mags, but recovered slugs from the backstop showed little to no expansion. I had a 460 smith back when, I had about 50 left over and I am concerned on expansion for that bullet as well. After reading the linebaugh article I’m leaning hard toward a semi wad cutter as I would only be shooting 50 yards max. I’m thinking I’ll shoot some soon and see what kinda accuracy I get. If I can shoot a 4” group supported off sand bags at 50 yards I’ll be happy probably use some shooting sticks in a pop up blind.
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My current and favorite load so far. 300g LFN GC over 22.2g of H110
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There is a lot to be said about the effect on game of a heavy bullet with a large meplat, a hard bullet with that penetrates very well and rips through causing more damage than one might think.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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My current and favorite load so far. 300g LFN GC over 22.2g of H110 Those are gorgeous! Is that your own casting or did you buy them somewhere? I’m not a casting person I just buy them, I don’t have anything to cast with..
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There is a lot to be said about the effect on game of a heavy bullet with a large meplat, a hard bullet with that penetrates very well and rips through causing more damage than one might think.
I used to shoot 45/70 at deer and your absolutely right never had a deer or a pig take a single step with a big flat meplat of the 405gr bullet, I even shot some 550 gr for a while same thing..
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Havent shot any deer with it, but load sierra 240 grain JHP's over i think 20+ grains of IMR 4227. Its a pretty stout load. Shot some hogs with it out to about 25 yards out of my blackhawk, it works. Of course i believe the cowboy load 250 grain lazercast round nose flat points i shoot at 800-900 FPS would have killed them just as dead.
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I shot my 7 that I loaded yesterday with 24 gr of H110 and a 255 semi wad cutter hard cast. I got to say it’s snappier than a 44 mag, but man it was accurate I managed to put 5 into about a 2” circle at 25 yards.
The last one got away a little because the 4th one drove the edge of the hammer into my hand and cut it a little (got to comfy and loosened my grip a little..
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My current and favorite load so far. 300g LFN GC over 22.2g of H110 Those are gorgeous! Is that your own casting or did you buy them somewhere? I’m not a casting person I just buy them, I don’t have anything to cast with.. I wish, I have never done any casting either. Those are from Cast Performance. They are on the expensive side but I don’t exactly shoot a lot of those in a range session. They’re for testing then hunting. They can be abusive after a while.
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I know it’s been said but when using H110 the better your crimp The more consistent it shoots. I use the Lee factory crimp die and it leaves a far better crimp than using the seater/crimp style. The Factory crimp die floats as well so if your brass is different lengths it still crimps the correct place
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