pretty certain the cop was not trying or in any way attempting to kill him.

quote=By his resisting actions he deserved to be RESTRAINED not killed. They could have easily kept him face down on the pavement (4 on 1) without kneeing him the neck for the 9 min duration.[/quote]

I agree 100% they could have kept him down on the pavement without kneeling on him, but why did he end up down on the pavement at all????? Oh that's right he chose to resist arrest. So while he should have never been killed under any circumstance, had he sat down in the police vehicle he would be alive today period end of story. The actions that lead to his death were wrong, and the officer will stand trial for that.

Bingo. I am not in the Floyd 100% innocent crowd, but what he did should not have ended in his death. What I meant by saying he was resisting the car was he wasn't throwing punches or anything at Chauvin, he wasn't actively fighting them, he was fighting being put in the car. I get where I was a little confusing there. I can almost understand a cop kneeling on someone face down if that person was punching, kicking, biting at, or otherwise putting the cops life in danger, but that wasn't happening. Floyd was simply resisting going in the car. I am fully aware his attempts were to avoid going downtown, but that doesn't make up for the fact he was calm and compliant with the first two officers in giving info and being cuffed. It was the car that brought about the resistance.

Now I mentioned I can almost see a cop kneeling on someone face down, and I can for some time, as mentioned in another post, until they are subdued. Then the cop should back away, and realize the perp is caught and not going anywhere. Again, liken this to a fight where tis 4 on 1. Once the guy is down do the 4 still beat and attack until the 1 is dead? if so, thats murder. Theres no self defense warranted in that situation (if it is just fists). Because a guy wears a uniform and is arresting a bad guy doesn't make him any less guilty of being a jerk when its 4 on 1 and the guy is subdued. No need to continue your efforts, just subdue, try to move, if no luck, then subdue again, try to move. eventually the guy will be totally exhausted and stop fighting or something else will happen (like he will pass out, in which case you render aid and transport in a ambulance, hopefully not dead). Had that scenario happened, these riots would not be going on. If the cops showed restraint, and continually were fought by mr floyd, then we'd be in a different ballgame. It wasn't like the cops were called for an active shooter. He was already cuffed. What can the guy do that wouldn't be caught on camera at that time?

I think that line was drawn when the pulse was taken and aid was not rendered. For some reason, the cops, none of them, rendered aid when a pulse was not found. Chauvin held his neck hold for 2 minutes (at least) after the pulse was taken and found absent.

That is either a blatant miscommunication by the officer who took the pulse, or a blatant disregard for human life by the officers who did hear.

I don't agree with this guy often

I believe the one common factor in these situations is resisting the arrest. It doesn't seem too difficult to do what the officer asks, even if you are in the right.

COVID is basically over. This will be too, soon.

I wonder what will be next?

Hurricane season

I might have to go fishing after work.

Summer heat, ugh.

yuckity yuck yuck

Just in time for the lights to go out.

Imagine the summer without electricity. No freezer. fridge, no AC. At least we wouldn't have to worry about hot water....

Back to the common sense statement.

Yep. One on the way.

On the money Sir

Downtown Houston's protest is peaceful so far. Fingers crossed.

Haha I have no clue if sarcastic, but either way I have no interest. I do my job because it keeps adult ADD at bay, gives me flexibility, and let's me keep my values. The role of presidency (or public CEO for that matter) takes it all away. Happy to be semi self-employed

The majority of the protests are peaceful in the daylight hours. It's when the sun starts to sink on the skyline when it turns ugly.

It will be on the local news. I'll keep you informed.

Here you go. Still peaceable.

Oops. Never say never. A white naked guy just showed up. I called of a drug wholesaler called McKesson & Robbins in that area.

We've learned to just say "guy" and not say the color. Did they catch the naked dude?

Right on time a tropical storm forms in the Bay of Campeche with far East Texas in the warning cone!