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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: rickt300]
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05/15/20 01:57 PM
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Animals that run game get shot immediately. So if my dog is legally treeing a raccoon you would shoot her? That would put you in a very dangerous situation. If your dog had a coon treed, he's not chasing game. He probably has a collar on, and looks healthy. I'm referencing wild dogs chasing deer, turkeys and other game animals.
" I don't hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt turkeys because I have to."
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: dogcatcher]
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12/22/20 05:13 PM
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Decades ago I found out that it is better to not talk to dog owners, most value their dogs more than they do their wife and children. yep, is a delicate situation, he could get nasty and retaliate, best would have been the GW first
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: rickt300]
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12/23/20 02:13 AM
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Never ceases to amaze me the odd thought processes of some on THF.
Ain't that the truth
Press for an AMERICAN.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Hudbone]
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12/23/20 02:52 PM
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I really don't mind confrontation but thinking you did way better than I would have.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: booskay]
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03/11/21 10:16 PM
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Sounds like the dog owner was very cooperative ----------- seems like problem solved. IF you live out in 'the country' and you let your dogs out, so what,, just normal thing to do. After being made aware of the problem he offered to correct it. I"d bring the guy some sort of gift for being so nice. That's a solid suggestion, and not the experience most get when confronting.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/12/21 07:22 AM
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I suppose I can add the update to this issue. He now let's his dogs out at night to hunt. I guess he doesn't realize that I have cameras. The game warden seemed bothered that I called again about it. Turkey season is almost here, so I guess we will see how it all plays out.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/12/21 11:14 AM
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He told me he lets them out to hunt in the mornings, but that he will construct a fence in the next few days. I read somewhere that "good fences make good neighbours". So, if the guy follows through by constructing a fence that keeps the dogs in then I'd say that, regardless of the tone of the meeting you had with him, he is being a good neighbour. I wonder what he meant when he said that he lets the dogs out to hunt in the morning. I'm guessing that he means that the dogs are kept in/around the house at night and then he lets them out in the morning to roam the property and "hunt". Although the man has every right to do what he likes on his property, provided he/his dogs do not infringe on other people's right, I think allowing dogs to roam the entire farm unsupervised is a terrible idea. Even if they are properly confined to the farm they could still: - Get hurt/injured somewhere in the bush where he might never find them - Bite and kill livestock and/or game - Chase and injure livestock and/or game I know a farmer who put his dalmation down because it would escape the enclosure around the house at night and roam the farm. The farmer did not think it was too serious a matter since the dog always returned - until the dog started killing sheep and lambs on it's nightly prowl. If the owner cannot ensure that his dogs are confined to his farm then it makes things significantly worse because they could: - Get knocked over when crossing roads or train tracks, get bitten by other dogs, eat poison or otherwise get hurt/injured - Bite/cause injury to people/children or other people's pets - Bite and kill other people's livestock and/or game - Chase and injure other people's livestock and/or game - Spread or contract diseases when coming into contact with other dogs - Get pregnant or make the neighbours dog(s) pregnant - Disrupt other people's nature activities (hunting, fishing, hiking, horseriding, walking their dogs etc) - Cause tension, unpleasantness or law suites between neighbours My personal opinion, and lay into me if you must since I do not own a farm, is that dogs should be confined to the farm homestead through fencing or through training and should NOT roam freely and unsupervised around the property and likely that of the neighbours too.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/12/21 12:41 PM
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Plain & simple, this is not rocket surgery. If a dog owner wants his pet to run around on a larger piece of property, he had better buy a larger piece of property. This is baloney crap that a neighbor should provide an exposure on his neighbor's property and to the detriment of that same neighboring property owner.
Last edited by Hudbone; 03/12/21 12:42 PM.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/13/21 01:58 AM
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Not sure if he ever put up a fence or just keeps the dogs in the house during the day now. I have them almost nightly on the far end of my property furthest from his land. Do have cattle and a small population of deer that come through. I only hunt turkey and hogs on the property.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/13/21 02:20 AM
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Why have t you killed those dogs yet?
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/13/21 03:11 AM
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I like dogs. They are just doing dog things. I'm fully capable of setting some dirt hole sets and trapping them, but I wouldn't want my own dogs in them. I'm not sure what to do.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/13/21 11:52 AM
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This ain't no rocket surgery. If you cannot get the owner of the animals to control his beasts, then you need your own action. If the beasts' owners do not cooperate, then action is required on your part or you will have the need to quit gritching be cuz you ain't willing to do anything about it.
Lure them over to you, grab the biggest one, beat the tar out of him, choke him in such a manner, spray diluted bleach in his face, shoot him with a pellet gun and/or whatever is needed so that he no longer desires to come visit, rather desiring to stay away from you and your property.
Right now the dang dog gets free rein on your property and that's what he wants and desires. Prevent that entirely or find the way to get him to quit believing running around on your property is such a good idea.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/13/21 10:29 PM
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My experience with people with dogs is that they can see no wrong in whatever their dogs do. Letting them “hunt” is wrong. It’s harmful to wildlife, not to mention harmful to your efforts to promote wildlife on your property for lawful hunting. Dogs run deer on my property often. Seeing a pack running a doe and yearling to exhaustion is not pretty. I’ve seen it. I have no sympathy for owners who let dogs run loose, especially after bring politely told it’s a problem, by you and the warden. It’s time to take action. Unfortunately you will be the prime suspect if anything happens to the dogs. It could get ugly. But I would figure a way to discretely dispatch them without it being obvious you are the culprit. Catching them and beating them serves no purpose. They don’t know the property boundaries. A dead dog is the only solution. The only question is when and how. I would never mention them again to anyone, maybe lay low for a few months, then act and say nothing and leave no trace. There are many ways but none should be discussed on an open forum.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/16/21 08:47 PM
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"Catching them and beating them serves no purpose." There's a certain Akita who will not venture anywhere close to me.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: booskay]
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03/20/21 08:46 PM
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I always want to understand the back story and more details before I decide. Ex. -- IF your property is 20 acres and the neighbor is 300 acres, you are hunting his turkey anyway, not yours. Knowing the size of the property is vital before any thinking individual can make a decision here. I have seen leases on here for 15---,20 acres, and they seem to actually find hunters to pay them to hunt it. That is poaching ,,, its legal, but you are shooting your neighbor's animals. Old I know but this is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. Maybe ever.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: scalebuster]
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03/20/21 08:49 PM
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Why have t you killed those dogs yet? Good question.
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Re: Dogs ruining turkey hunts
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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03/22/21 08:07 AM
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I don't want to kill someone's pet. I'd rather it be handled by the game warden.
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