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Re: Using 44 spcl data for 44 mag cases
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04/28/20 09:20 PM
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Also take a peek at titegroup loads for a 45 Colt, not the Ruger loads just standard. With a 250 grain xtp bullet they're down around 7 or so grains. The 45 Colt case has considerably more capacity than the 44 Mag. I'm not saying that that's an exact load to use , but I am saying it's a way to extrapolate and make decisions using the information available. If 7 is grains of titegroup gets the 250 grain flying out of the Colt okay , I'm thinking it's going to be fine with the 44 mag as well. Anyway just some food for thought and a way to look at stuff in reloading manuals to find out things that are not in reloading manuals but you still have to be sensible :-)
Have a good one This was my first thought as I also load for 45 colt.
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Re: Using 44 spcl data for 44 mag cases
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05/25/20 12:30 PM
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Spend a little time here and read the stories that are posted about detonation and also danger of lodged bullet. Stick with approved min / max loads for 44 Mag http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistolOr here Is Detonation Real? There has been a lot of ink spilled about the phenomena called detonation. As I shoot I lot of reduced loads with and without a filler it has long been an interest/concern of mine. From all the info I've been able to gather over the decades the description Howlin' gave is the one most agree on. However, if pushed a little no one I've spoken with or written to has confirmed that 100%. I don't know if that matters because 100% of those I've communicated with and every experienced handloader I know agrees that with very light loads of fast burning powders there is something peculiar that goes on, sometimes with devastating results. As Pawpaw mentioned H-110 and 296 seem to be the greatest offenders if charges are reduced below recommended levels. Other faster burning powders have also been known to create the situation. I have never, personally had any problems with any reduced load I've used nor have I ever seen an example of what is called detonation other than in pictures. The method of my personal reduced loads are well documented by proof houses and highly experienced handloaders and I don't vary from the formula. However, with certain powders there is no question that occasionally "something peculiar" happens. As others have mentioned if a loader stays within the guidelines of published data there shouldn't be any problems. For those old or seldom seen cartridges there is powders available to day that pretty much eliminate any guesswork in building a suitable load. Trail Boss was mentioned by db and AA5744 is another. Good thread, interesting topic. https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/is-detonation-real.174838/Back in the 70 when hides were selling for a descent price some were shooting 222's and 223's with reduced powder loads. Old man Knowlton had several examples in his shop where they had pressure problems and blow ups. I stuck with a 22 mag and a 22 Hornet and even the Hornet caused more damage than I'd like to have seen, cost me some money a couple of times.
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Re: Using 44 spcl data for 44 mag cases
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06/02/20 12:52 AM
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I like using Trail Boss with cast bullets. One of the best features about the powder is that it is very difficult to get a double charge of powder in the case without it being very apparent when checking cases before seating bullets.
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