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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: SDTurner] #7794819 04/03/20 11:38 PM
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I haven't. Just 130 HHC and 150 HB.

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7794844 04/03/20 11:59 PM
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Like everything, with the pistol/ sbr setup it depends on what you’re doing hunting, sd or both.. that determines your round of choice

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: Wilson Combat] #7794973 04/04/20 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
My concern about heavier bullets in short barrels is how much down range retained velocity you have at reasonable distances, say out to 150yds. I also have the same concern going shorter than 11.3". Most bullets are designed for reliable expansion down to 1900fps, if you only start out with 2000-2100fps MV for example this doesn't give you much range. But on the flip side, the lighter bullets shed velocity much faster than the heavier ones assuming a similar profile.

For this reason I keep my 11.3" pistol loaded with the 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR rather than 150gr choices.

This probably calls for some serious ballistic comparison on a program like Hornady's Ballistic Calculator......

Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
My concern about heavier bullets in short barrels is how much down range retained velocity you have at reasonable distances, say out to 150yds. I also have the same concern going shorter than 11.3". Most bullets are designed for reliable expansion down to 1900fps, if you only start out with 2000-2100fps MV for example this doesn't give you much range. But on the flip side, the lighter bullets shed velocity much faster than the heavier ones assuming a similar profile.

For this reason I keep my 11.3" pistol loaded with the 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR rather than 150gr choices.

This probably calls for some serious ballistic comparison on a program like Hornady's Ballistic Calculator......


Exact reason why I was curious of the velocity of the 150gr SST from a 14.7. If it’s close to 2200fps using Hornady’s ballistic calculator it stays above the recommended expansion threshold of 1600fps out to 300yds

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: AR-Head] #7795036 04/04/20 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AR-Head
Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
My concern about heavier bullets in short barrels is how much down range retained velocity you have at reasonable distances, say out to 150yds. I also have the same concern going shorter than 11.3". Most bullets are designed for reliable expansion down to 1900fps, if you only start out with 2000-2100fps MV for example this doesn't give you much range. But on the flip side, the lighter bullets shed velocity much faster than the heavier ones assuming a similar profile.

For this reason I keep my 11.3" pistol loaded with the 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR rather than 150gr choices.

This probably calls for some serious ballistic comparison on a program like Hornady's Ballistic Calculator......

Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
My concern about heavier bullets in short barrels is how much down range retained velocity you have at reasonable distances, say out to 150yds. I also have the same concern going shorter than 11.3". Most bullets are designed for reliable expansion down to 1900fps, if you only start out with 2000-2100fps MV for example this doesn't give you much range. But on the flip side, the lighter bullets shed velocity much faster than the heavier ones assuming a similar profile.

For this reason I keep my 11.3" pistol loaded with the 130gr HAM'R HOT-COR rather than 150gr choices.

This probably calls for some serious ballistic comparison on a program like Hornady's Ballistic Calculator......


Exact reason why I was curious of the velocity of the 150gr SST from a 14.7. If it’s close to 2200fps using Hornady’s ballistic calculator it stays above the recommended expansion threshold of 1600fps out to 300yds


It should be slightly better than 2200fps.. out of a 16” barrel mv for the 150gr sst is supposed to be +\- 2300fps.

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7795317 04/04/20 03:22 PM
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I'm about half way into building an 11.3" .300 Ham'r pistol. I'll likely be using the same 135 Gr. FTX's as I'm using in my 18" rifle to keep it simple. The 11.3" should produce almost the same velocity as a 123 grain bullet out of a 16" 7.62x39. If I was hunting I'd want to only shoot at ranges that are above expansion thresholds. But if there was a situation where I had to defend myself at ranges beyond what expansion thresholds call for I wouldn't feel undergunned. At 400 yards the 11.3" Ham'r has about 100 Ft. Lbs. more energy than M855 out of a similar length barrel. While it probably won't get textbook expansion or tumble like the 62 Gr. 5.56, it will do plenty of damage and should poke a nice big .30 caliber hole.


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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: ShadowFast1] #7797118 04/06/20 03:07 AM
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i can't believe this thread is still going strong. haven't been able to get in as much hunting as i'd like lately, but i'll contribute my part...


Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7797123 04/06/20 03:30 AM
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Dammit, DJones got some training from somewhere. That was a clinic right there


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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: djones] #7797841 04/06/20 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by djones
i can't believe this thread is still going strong. haven't been able to get in as much hunting as i'd like lately, but i'll contribute my part...



You sure one of those black silhouettes was a hog? laugh Looked like a horse.

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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: SwatDude1] #7797861 04/06/20 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SwatDude1
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i can't believe this thread is still going strong. haven't been able to get in as much hunting as i'd like lately, but i'll contribute my part...



You sure one of those black silhouettes was a hog? laugh Looked like a horse.

yeah, at 50 second mark.


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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: SwatDude1] #7797901 04/06/20 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SwatDude1
Originally Posted by djones
i can't believe this thread is still going strong. haven't been able to get in as much hunting as i'd like lately, but i'll contribute my part...



You sure one of those black silhouettes was a hog? laugh Looked like a horse.
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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: djones] #7798151 04/07/20 01:46 AM
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Awesome video!!

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: Radical.300] #7798505 04/07/20 02:22 PM
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when i start the sweep my eyes roll back in my head and everything looks the same. fortunately it was a yote. but at least i ain't afraid to get my trigger finger moving. i bet some of yall's poor girlfriends cry themselves to sleep every night grin

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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7798522 04/07/20 02:33 PM
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What video editing software did you use to make all those shots appear to be hits ?

roflmao


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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7799837 04/08/20 04:47 PM
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@Wilson Combat totally off topic but product suggestion. Y’all should make a silencer adapter in the 1.375x24tpi akin to the Q Plan-B, Griffin Plan-A, Si-Co Omega, Area-419, Dead Air Key-Mo,etc but that uses the Wilson Combat Quell flash hider for mounting.

Apologize for the derail, just excited about getting a new silencer to go along with my new Ham’R.

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: AR-Head] #7800080 04/08/20 07:58 PM
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great idea ar-head... which gives me an idea...

wilson... just noticed you joined one year ago this month. all sponsors give away a nice gift on their 1 year anniversary. one of your suppressors would soar your account standing from woodsman to djones apprentice!!

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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: cpt80] #7800128 04/08/20 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cpt80
I'm surprised that nobody has started a reloading thread on 300 Ham'r ?

Yes please a reloading thread would be great!

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: bmcpeak363] #7800130 04/08/20 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcpeak363
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I'm surprised that nobody has started a reloading thread on 300 Ham'r ?

Yes please a reloading thread would be great!

Does anyone have data for the 130 Ham'r hot core with 1680?

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: djones] #7800473 04/09/20 01:43 AM
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great idea ar-head... which gives me an idea...

wilson... just noticed you joined one year ago this month. all sponsors give away a nice gift on their 1 year anniversary. one of your suppressors would soar your account standing from woodsman to djones apprentice!!

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roflmao You really should post more, you’re as big of an idiot as most of us here lol35


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Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7800700 04/09/20 12:51 PM
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The Speer 135gr HAM'R BONDED bullets are now on the web site for sale, order # is B300HMR-135-HB $14.95/50qty

Starting load is 27gr CFEBLK and they seem to shoot real good between 2400-2425fps from a 18" bbl, 16" will be about 25fps less. I don't have any data for A1680, but you can start with published 150gr loads and work up.

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Bill,

You prefer these over the 130 Hot-Cors for pigs? Don't really think you can go wrong with either.


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Here's my completed 11.3" defense/truck/close range hunting gun. Very pleased with how the 300 ham'r is doing.

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: eneat1119] #7800925 04/09/20 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by eneat1119
Bill,

You prefer these over the 130 Hot-Cors for pigs? Don't really think you can go wrong with either.


For hunting hogs and whitetails any of the following are very good choices and to be totally honest I haven't decided which one I like the best.......

Speer 130gr HAM'R HOT-CORE (or the original Speer #2007 flat point)
Speer 135gr HAM'R BONDED
Hornady 135gr FTX
Hornady 150gr SST (#30303 .300 Savage variant)
Speer 150gr BTSP
Speer 150gr Gold Dot (#300150BLKGDB)

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: SDTurner] #7800960 04/09/20 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SDTurner
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Here's my completed 11.3" defense/truck/close range hunting gun. Very pleased with how the 300 ham'r is doing.


Very nice!!! Love me some Scalarworks red dot mounts!!!

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150gr SST. I shot him while walking to the blind.

Re: WILSON COMBAT 300 HAM'R [Re: dlrz71] #7803585 04/12/20 01:03 PM
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Cool lookin swine there


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