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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: duffas]
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11/14/23 02:37 PM
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RiverRider
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Obvious that the 'straight wall' case has to headspace on the case taper. Nope. Headspace is off the case mouth. You should use your mouse more and your keyboard much less.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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12/15/23 01:55 PM
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New to the forum been reading a lot over the years about 300 ham’r I built 18” and 16” then built 350 legend Wilson combat 16” haven’t killed any thing with them but I can say this my best 100 groups with the 350 legend are my average groups with the 300 ham’r the 180 Winchester pp hit steel harder in the 350 legend than the 150 in the 300 ham’r but I ain’t killing steel the 300 ham’r runs flawless when I first built the 350 legend when I would change it I would easy the charging handle forward it would jam up or if ran dry it would jam sometimes now I run it hard and wet and it is flawless have less than 100 rounds on the legend just built it a few months ago like I said I’m new here looking for load data on both 300 ham’r and 350 legend God bless
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: Coyote bob]
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12/15/23 02:11 PM
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New to the forum been reading a lot over the years about 300 ham’r I built 18” and 16” then built 350 legend Wilson combat 16” haven’t killed any thing with them but I can say this my best 100 groups with the 350 legend are my average groups with the 300 ham’r the 180 Winchester pp hit steel harder in the 350 legend than the 150 in the 300 ham’r but I ain’t killing steel the 300 ham’r runs flawless when I first built the 350 legend when I would change it I would easy the charging handle forward it would jam up or if ran dry it would jam sometimes now I run it hard and wet and it is flawless have less than 100 rounds on the legend just built it a few months ago like I said I’m new here looking for load data on both 300 ham’r and 350 legend God bless Good first post, horrible punctuation. We’re mostly old folks here and need a period here and there and even occasionally a comma. Welcome to the forum!!
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: wp75169]
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12/15/23 04:09 PM
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Coyote bob
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That what my English teacher said to iam not old and not young either.I’ve done most of my hunting with bolt guns until Hillary Clinton said i didn’t need an ar15 I’ve got 8 now.i call them preservation for the next generation.killed good 8 pointer few years ago sbr 300 blackout suppressed and few yotes with 5.56 ar15. Trying to suck up as much knowledge as I can. Thanks to all and Try to keep God first in our lives the worlds in a bad place right now nothing it ain’t been thru before nothing new under the sun.God bless you all keep your powder dry and good shooting.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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01/02/24 02:20 PM
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Picked up a Diamond Back in 350 legend not long ago, been using the 20 rd DURA MAG's and they run with no problem's. We've had a bunch of hogs show up so i thought I'd give it a try. It's about as accurate as I am with a red dot so that's going to keep me inside a 100 yards. Been so warm the hogs are moving at night, need some cold weather. The thought of getting one in a Ruger American and putting a low powered glass on it is tempting. I don't reload anymore so bullet diameter's is not a problem, plus they seem to offer some pretty good factory ammo.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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01/02/24 04:32 PM
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What Mr. Wilson said on page 1.
I am a big reloader so component availability and selection become an key factor in my decision making process for why the 300HAM'R over the 350 Legend. I have learned my lesson with planning for the next panic/shortage cycle and also streamlining my components. Factory brass and also the ability to make your own cases from 223 (just like 300BO). Wide selection of popular and readily available .308 diameter bullets. I have no worries.
I have met a few people who became so frustrated trying to tune their AR15 to run the 350 Legend that they stuck it in a corner and forgot about it. That says a lot.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
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01/03/24 02:59 AM
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Timing is everything. A few hours after my post ^^^ I got a text from a shooting buddy. After 2 year of frustration he had finally decided to order a 300HAMR barrel and toss the 350 Legend barrel.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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01/05/24 11:18 PM
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How about those two new calibers vs two old ones.....the 300 Savage and the 35 Rem?
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
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02/03/24 04:55 PM
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This right here:
"I'm at a loss as to why Winchester spec'd a .355" bullet diameter???? The caliber is basically limited to bullets that are specifically designed for it." And how is that a bad thing? A cartridge that has bullets specifically designed for it is one lucky cartridge. That said sizing jacketed bullets down a few thousandths is just as easy as sizing cast bullets.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
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02/03/24 04:57 PM
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rickt300
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What Mr. Wilson said on page 1.
I am a big reloader so component availability and selection become an key factor in my decision making process for why the 300HAM'R over the 350 Legend. I have learned my lesson with planning for the next panic/shortage cycle and also streamlining my components. Factory brass and also the ability to make your own cases from 223 (just like 300BO). Wide selection of popular and readily available .308 diameter bullets. I have no worries.
I have met a few people who became so frustrated trying to tune their AR15 to run the 350 Legend that they stuck it in a corner and forgot about it. That says a lot. Poorly designed magazines and rough chambers cause function problems. After I figured out the issue my 350 runs great, is my favorite cast bullet rifle. May sell my Marlin 35 Remington.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
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02/03/24 05:01 PM
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As the person who made the first cartridge that Win copied to make their legend , about 2 years before they came out with it . I built bolt rifles and AR's . The case headspaces on the case mouth . All of mine were based on the .223 case and used .357 pistol bullets . I did that because the cases were free and the bullets cheap . My AR's run just fine with many .357 bullets , I do use a .355 barrel . They added about .006 at the case head so you had to buy their cases , and I assume they said .355 bullets for the same reason . My ammo will fire in their rifles , theirs will not fire in mine . My best bullet was the 180 xtp , best weight , velocity , and accuracy , plus knock down power . I tested many bullets and powders . My friends and I were killing things about 2 years before wilson . I figured they added diameter at the case head to make feeding better. Too bad they didn't understand they needed to move the front of the feed lips back around .200.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: bluetopper]
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02/03/24 05:02 PM
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How about those two new calibers vs two old ones.....the 300 Savage and the 35 Rem? I have a 35 Remington. Loaded to it's capabilities it is way more cartridge than the Legend. Loaded to factory pressures the Legend is comparable. Still good though.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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02/03/24 05:03 PM
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This all said I intend to put together a 300 Hamr soon. Why not?
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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02/03/24 08:07 PM
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MaduroBU
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The Legend is a caliber built to address a specific market built by laws requiring straight wall cartridges. For the "Indiana Hunting Forum" website, the .350 is the only legal choice. In Texas, it's hard to argue against the .300 HAMR. I tend to agree with Mr. Wilson on bullet mass being preferable all else held equal, to the extent that my next project is stuffing 220 grain HDY RN bullets into a .300 HAMR and seeing if I can hit 1700 FPS. If that load will feed reliably, then I'll have to see if it will expand at ~1500 FPS impact velocities. If THAT works, then it would be VERY similar to a .350 in terms of energy and momentum. For comparison, my 300 grain HDY XTP .44 loads hit a hard wall at 1300 FPS from a 9.5" Super Redhawk. That gives momentum almost exactly equivalent to a 220 grain bullet at 1700.
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Re: 300 Ham’r vs 350 Legend
[Re: DarioFPorras]
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02/03/24 09:05 PM
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Theg_man
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I have both and have killed bears with both. My particular 350 Legend barrel is very accurate, so that hasn't been an issue, but I just can't see it being as versatile as my HAM'Rs, and haven't seen any difference in killing ability (though my 350 L sample is small).
As Bill said, if all of your shots were within 150 yards, then it might be close. That said, I don't want to be that limited and would take the HAM'R any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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