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 Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/23/09 11:32 PM
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Thank you for the compliment. Did I say something that doesn't apply to you? You've already admitted you don't go to church. Maybe the best place for you is on your knees. Only direct your praise at God, you don't owe me a thing.
Ah, there it is!
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Oh, since YOU brought it up, whats wrong with Christianity?? I know..............this ain't gonna be pretty!!!
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Oh, and your responce was not meant to be confrontational either????? 
I was just praising the fellow who toots his own horn. I didn't know it was physically possible.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 02:58 AM
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I think you got the point!!! I didn't expect a filthy answer like that so lets just let it go at that!! What happened to you being all concerned about this not being the time or the placeto air certain things, huh, huh?
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 03:19 AM
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HaHa
Ya'll trip me out!
Dan I "never took the time to develop a good and effective practice routine"! Shooting at paper is, to me, to say the least BOOOOOOOO-RING! I do not hunt to be a good marksman only to HUNT. You put yourself on a real high stool with all that B.S. Your the kinda guy that will miss the biggest buck you've ever seen next year because you think your a perfect shooter then you won't even tell your huntin buddies, if you have any, because your to embarrassed after all that talk.
Not everyone wants to be like you. Some people hunt to just have fun and enjoy their family, friends and the outdoors. That doesn't make them a disgrace to the sport or un-respectable by any means...
YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOME TIME!
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 04:58 AM
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HaHa
Ya'll trip me out!
Dan I "never took the time to develop a good and effective practice routine"! Shooting at paper is, to me, to say the least BOOOOOOOO-RING! I do not hunt to be a good marksman only to HUNT. You put yourself on a real high stool with all that B.S. Your the kinda guy that will miss the biggest buck you've ever seen next year because you think your a perfect shooter then you won't even tell your huntin buddies, if you have any, because your to embarrassed after all that talk.
Not everyone wants to be like you. Some people hunt to just have fun and enjoy their family, friends and the outdoors. That doesn't make them a disgrace to the sport or un-respectable by any means...
YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOME TIME!
Just who is judging who now?
I never said anything that made it appear I view myself as perfect shot. The fact that I routinely practice is evidence that I feel just the opposite. My point was to draw strong attention to the most recent (and perhaps best) of many articles that I have seen in various forms of print, that address the value of taking the time to practice with your firearm.
But it's obvious by now, that NOTHING, including a strong choice of words, is going to motivate some guys to spend more than the absolute minimum amount of time shooting their rifles in preparation for the upcoming season. And unfortunately, for the reputation of both the sport and those who practice it, that's something of which most of us will be reminded, come every Opening Day.
Do I actually "despise" those who refuse to practice? Absoluely not. Heck, one of my hunting partners is just that type. However, unlike so many here, he will quickly admit that he doesn't know for sure if he can hit a deer if it's more than 50 yards away. And that's fine too. I also like to practice tracking them.
Still, if our "friendly" debate will result in just one or two more deer being taken this coming season, deer that would have otherwise been lost, our efforts will not have been wasted.
Can we move on now?
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 05:33 AM
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I absolutely despise "six-shot wonders" and consider them a disgrace to the sport.
This is the sentence that got everyone, including myself all worked up. And now you are saying you don't... Had I said I absolutely despise hunters who shoot game with a gun and not a bow and even consider them a disgrace to the sport. I'm sure you'd have had a thing or two to say too?
Can we move on? Sure, Ok Let's do that... 
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 05:48 AM
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I absolutely despise "six-shot wonders" and consider them a disgrace to the sport.
This is the sentence that got everyone, including myself all worked up. And now you are saying you don't... Had I said I absolutely despise hunters who shoot game with a gun and not a bow and even consider them a disgrace to the sport. I'm sure you'd have had a thing or two to say too?
Can we move on? Sure, Ok Let's do that...
Point well taken.
Perhaps I could have said that I "despise to see a deer wounded and unrecovered". But since that isn't something for which we can blame the deer, we can only focus our attention on the hunters who wound them because they refuse to practice.
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 07:09 AM
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 05:33 PM
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Really don't feel like moving on Dan.
As much as you like putting yourself up there above other people, some of us like to point and snicker at people who think they know it all.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 05:56 PM
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I absolutely despise "six-shot wonders" and consider them a disgrace to the sport.
This is the sentence that got everyone, including myself all worked up. And now you are saying you don't... Had I said I absolutely despise hunters who shoot game with a gun and not a bow and even consider them a disgrace to the sport. I'm sure you'd have had a thing or two to say too?
Can we move on? Sure, Ok Let's do that...
Point well taken.
Perhaps I could have said that I "despise to see a deer wounded and unrecovered". But since that isn't something for which we can blame the deer, we can only focus our attention on the hunters who wound them because they refuse to practice.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 06:10 PM
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Really don't feel like moving on Dan.
As much as you like putting yourself up there above other people, some of us like to point and snicker at people who think they know it all.
I no dats rite!!! 
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 07:21 PM
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With the cost of ammo I think I have now become a six-shot wonder 
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 07:45 PM
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I'm not even a six shot wonder with a bow. I shot 2 arrows this past season and killed a block target and a doe, mission accomplished, bow went back in the case
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 Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/24/09 10:35 PM
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I'm not even a six shot wonder with a bow. I shot 2 arrows this past season and killed a block target and a doe, mission accomplished, bow went back in the case
Did you have that target mounted?
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/25/09 04:16 AM
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yes sir!... and even shot it with the aid of a spotlight at around 1am. It can be viewed in the "garage trophy collection"
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/25/09 07:06 AM
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With the cost of ammo I think I have now become a six-shot wonder
LOL 10-4!
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 Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/25/09 04:20 PM
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Wow, what a thread. This one has it all.
My 2 cents:
I used to practice quite a bit. For probably a five year stretch, twenty years ago, I went to the range every couple of months and ran a box of shells through my gun. Since then, I probably only go through a box of shells a year with maybe five of those actually used to kill something. All those years of practice made me a very confident marksman. I know my gun and know what it is capable of out to 300+ yards. I do not feel the need to practice like I used to. The hard part for me about killing a deer is not wether I will kill what I am shooting at, it is all of the other factors that figure into it. Is it the right deer?, is he as big as I think he is? weather conditions, Can I wait and get a better shot?
I try not to take bad shots. I would rather not take the shot and have another chance at him later than take a shot that does not have a good chance of success. This is a hard lesson to teach my kids.
However, I am confident that once I do squeeze the trigger, there will be an animal laying on the ground or there will be a blood trail to follow. Practice is what got me to this level of confidence.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/26/09 07:03 AM
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Since then, I probably only go through a box of shells a year with maybe five of those actually used to kill something.
That's probably ten times as many off-season shots as those taken by 90% of the guys who read this.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/26/09 07:08 AM
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I just made 2 shots to check my rifle... 2 coons about 175 yards off with the truck running...and the aid of a spotlight... practicing for those east tx road hunts.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/26/09 07:15 AM
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i gotta say, i do shoot yr round, usually not at targets, but i just do a lot of hunting and shooting. however, anyone that has every shot a gun in there life can go sit in a deer stand once a year and shoot a deer with a rifle.... i mean my gf had shot a gun a couple times in her life, and all with me. this past yr i take her deer hunting for the first time (at least in hopes for her taking a kill) and i let her shoot the rifle 3 times at a target, all good shots at 100yrds. That being said, YOU DO NOT NEED TO PRACTICE ALL YEAR or very much at all for that matter to be able to hit a deer at 100 yrds from a 6x4 deer blind.... No need to practice.... check ur gun, its on, be done with it. Now if u hunt like i do where u dont sit in a blind, but walk around and have to take free hand shots and all that business, practice is required. but for most of thos "six shot shooters" they sit in a blind with a stable rest and hit there game. Im sorry if im repeating some of this thread, i couldnt bring myself t read all 4 previous pages.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/26/09 04:34 PM
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Some pretty good guys on both sides of this.
I'm now a lousy shot. However, a long time ago, the military thought I was an expert in just about every type of shooting iron. Then life and responsibilities caught up with me.
I've set up a shooting range on my property that I can use anytime. However, I have choices of fixing fence, working on tractors, putting a new door on the barn, doing rain dances, taking care of everything that falls apart, taking naps, drinking beer, or a lot of other priorities/pretty interesting things.
I have somewhere around 40 or 50 guns and a lifetime supply of reloading components so cost isn't an issue.
About the only thing I can hit is a deer. However, 3 years ago, I missed a huge buck at less than 50 yards. No amount of practice would have helped me on that one.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/27/09 03:20 AM
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Now if u hunt like i do where u dont sit in a blind, but walk around and have to take free hand shots and all that business, practice is required. but for most of thos "six shot shooters" they sit in a blind with a stable rest and hit there game.
Sad, but true. The vast majority of shots taken at deer these says are from a comfortable box stand (often heated) with a carpet rest and cushioned chair.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/27/09 03:27 AM
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I have some hunting books ranging from the 30s to the early 70s. All of them acknowledge that stand hunting is more productive than still hunting. However, they talked about learning where the game was and going there to wait for 'em, not so much about above ground stands and bait.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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Im hunting from a comfortable stand, however its not sad for me. My 12 year old is hunting with me and I wouldnt have it any other way. We have conversations while looking at game. Move around to get comfortable, and stay for long periods of time..
I want to make the hunt enjoyable and memorable for my child. Keeping him interested is my goal, if his hands are cold and Im talking to him, all he would be hearing is "my hands are cold, my hands are cold".. So yes we are hunting in rather nice accomodations BUT it keeps him coming back for more.. And that is my ultimate goal. JMO
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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I have some hunting books ranging from the 30s to the early 70s. All of them acknowledge that stand hunting is more productive than still hunting. However, they talked about learning where the game was and going there to wait for 'em, not so much about above ground stands and bait.
Several years back, my wife brought me a book written back in the 60's that she picked up at the public library. The author wrote how natural thermals can move the air on the calmest of days. For example, cutovers and pastures will cool more quickly on late evenings, while wooded areas that border them will hold heat longer. The rising air in these wooded areas will draw cooler air from the adjacent pasture. Put a stand at the edge of the two, and any deer coming from within the wooded area is likely to detect you from the air being drawn past you.
And just the opposite is true in the morning. With the pasture and open areas heating more quickly, air will be drawn in the opposite direction.
Books like these are hard to find these days because, with the exception of bow hunters who are limited to close shots outside of box stands, few guys care to read them.
While I'm not a bow hunter, I admire those who do for taking on the much greater challenge.
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Re: An absolute "must read"
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06/29/09 10:29 PM
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Then you'll really despise me because I rarely shoot more than 2 rounds before season. Make sure it's on and I'm good to go. Some people just need allot more practice I guess.
Me as well, there is no difficultly to rifle hunting as long as its on your good, I don't takes shots farther that 200 yards. On the other hand I do continuously shoot my bow to keep in top form, IMO you need to practice with a bow and arrow to remain proficient, with rifles the technology has gotten to the point that you don't have to.
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