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Re: TOP 5 OVER RATED CARTRIDGES [Re: JCB] #7657269 11/10/19 02:02 AM
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7 Mag - just get a 300 mag
375 Ruger - just get a 375 h&h

Re: TOP 5 OVER RATED CARTRIDGES [Re: Sneaky] #7657290 11/10/19 02:42 AM
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I think the 6.5 Creedmoor is a fine cartridge-maybe the best ever for shooting at distance.

That said, everywhere I go guys attach mythical qualities to it. In Alberta about to leave a mule deer hunt right now and 3 of the 4 guys there were touting it as the be-all-end-all for everything from Coues deer up to and including the big bears. To listen to them that 143 grain bullet traveling about 2800 fps somehow takes on powers that have to be seen to be believed. Everything it hits is practically vaporized. smile

So I’d say it’s one of the most overrated cartridges I’ve seen in a long time. Not because it’s a poor cartridge at all, but because so many ascribe otherworldly qualities to it.


That’s why I don’t have one. I want something left over to eat.



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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Any "deer" cartridge in an ar 15
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Re: TOP 5 OVER RATED CARTRIDGES [Re: JCB] #7657310 11/10/19 03:13 AM
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Two cartridges come to mind as being overrated.
1) 7 Mag. It’s a fine cartridge, but I’ve hunted with people who thought all you had to do was point it at a deer
up to 800 yards away and the deer was dead. Also, I have learned that a .270 will do everything I need in a deer
rifle and shoot cheaper ammo and kick less than a 7 mag
2) 243. To be honest I’ve never used one because of so many stories about lost deer or deer that traveled
farther than expected after a solid shot. I have used a 7-08 quite a lot and figure if you want to shoot a
short action rifle, it shoots a bigger bullet than the 243 and at comparable speeds and recoil is still quite light.


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308



I don't think anyone talks about the 308 anymore. Everything has switched to ultra high BC cartridges.


The .308 is so 2007


It's practically a muzzleloader compared to new cartridges.




When you look at the 308 it is outclassed by just about anything. I’ve never understood why anyone wanted one in the last 50 years with all of the better options out there. I’ve never owned one and probably never will.

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I like my .308. Replaced a .270 with shot out barrel with a Remington 700 w/5R stainless barrel. Most accurate rifle out of the box at 200 yards that I’ve owned. Recoil is like a .243, not bad for a .30 caliber bullet.



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Back when I bought most of my rifles I chose calibers that were available at the local service stations, 30-06, 308, 243, 270 and 30-30. I have added other calibers, but not based in the performance of the round, it was because it was good looking gun with a wood stock. I have some pickup cab beaters, but even those are in common old calibers. If I had to only choose one caliber, it would be the 243, not because of the bullet performance, but because the beauty queen in the safe is a 243.

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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
Back when I bought most of my rifles I chose calibers that were available at the local service stations, 30-06, 308, 243, 270 and 30-30. I have added other calibers, but not based in the performance of the round, it was because it was good looking gun with a wood stock. I have some pickup cab beaters, but even those are in common old calibers. If I had to only choose one caliber, it would be the 243, not because of the bullet performance, but because the beauty queen in the safe is a 243.

Life is too short to shoot ugly guns are chase ugly women. up


Anyone who bad mouths a .243 for Texas game has obviously spent more time being a keyboard expert on the internet, vs real life experience with one. Or..maybe they just made a bad shot, maybe shooting a crap bullet, and blamed it on the caliber, which is common. These experts are almost always from a certain demographic North of I-10 that almost always includes San Antonio and Dallas/ Ft Worth.

I have killed hundreds of animals with calibers that I am now being told are “too small”. Lol.

There is no better cull shooting rifle than a 220 Swift or a 22-250. 223 or 222 works just fine too if the shooter is capable.

There are too many internet caliber experts on this forum that loooooooooooooove to tell you what’s best.











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Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by dogcatcher
Back when I bought most of my rifles I chose calibers that were available at the local service stations, 30-06, 308, 243, 270 and 30-30. I have added other calibers, but not based in the performance of the round, it was because it was good looking gun with a wood stock. I have some pickup cab beaters, but even those are in common old calibers. If I had to only choose one caliber, it would be the 243, not because of the bullet performance, but because the beauty queen in the safe is a 243.

Life is too short to shoot ugly guns are chase ugly women. up


Anyone who bad mouths a .243 for Texas game has obviously spent more time being a keyboard expert on the internet, vs real life experience with one. Or..maybe they just made a bad shot, maybe shooting a crap bullet, and blamed it on the caliber, which is common. These experts are almost always from a certain demographic North of I-10 that almost always includes San Antonio and Dallas/ Ft Worth.



I have killed hundreds of animals with calibers that I am now being told are “too small”. Lol.

There is no better cull shooting rifle than a 220 Swift or a 22-250. 223 or 222 works just fine too if the shooter is capable.

There are too many internet caliber experts on this forum that loooooooooooooove to tell you what’s best.













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Overrated?

1. 6.5 Creedmoor

2. 6.5 Creedmoor

3. 6.5 Creedmoor

4. 6.5 Creedmoor

5. 300 BO

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Think these types of questions exist for only one reason: to get folks riled up. Each of us get defensive when someone makes a comment that is not in alignment with how we feel.

Take the 243 or 30/30. Both are popular and have killed tons of deer. I'll never own either one since neither does anything for me. I have calibers that are much better suited to where, what, and how I hunt. From this perspective these rounds are overrated; however, for another individual either could be the perfect round.

Folks should feel blessed that we have so many options to bitch about which calibers are overrated.

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Re: TOP 5 OVER RATED CARTRIDGES [Re: AZ_Hunter_2000] #7657557 11/10/19 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ_Hunter_2000
Think these types of questions exist for only one reason: to get folks riled up. Each of us get defensive when someone makes a comment that is not in alignment with how we feel.

Take the 243 or 30/30. Both are popular and have killed tons of deer. I'll never own either one since neither does anything for me. I have calibers that are much better suited to where, what, and how I hunt. From this perspective these rounds are overrated; however, for another individual either could be the perfect round.

Folks should feel blessed that we have so many options to bitch about which calibers are overrated.



Ditto this - silliness IMO.

Ford or Chevy? For me a rifle is nothing more than a tool I use to kill my prey. If it does that well for me then that is the caliber I will continue to use.


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300 WM & 7 Mag

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Our fore fathers would think we are silly, round 45-54 caliber balls was all they ever needed or wanted and theirs would say all you need is a long bow


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Originally Posted by David Maas
Our fore fathers would think we are silly, round 45-54 caliber balls was all they ever needed or wanted and theirs would say all you need is a long bow


I think our forefathers would have been beside themselves with joy to have the equipment we have today

.45 & .54 caliber round balls were far from ideal projectiles


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Originally Posted by David Maas
Our fore fathers would think we are silly, round 45-54 caliber balls was all they ever needed or wanted and theirs would say all you need is a long bow


Hogwash.

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Our fore fathers would think we are silly, round 45-54 caliber balls was all they ever needed or wanted and theirs would say all you need is a long bow


I think our forefathers would have been beside themselves with joy to have the equipment we have today

.45 & .54 caliber round balls were far from ideal projectiles


Yep, they would be envious to some degree (some hard headed farts probably would think it's silly). They used that stuff because that's all they had. One day our great grand kids will be talking about how we were able to survive with the primitive garbage we're currently using. I believe anything that would have made it quicker and easier to put dinner on the table would have been welcomed.


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Originally Posted by Grizz
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Our fore fathers would think we are silly, round 45-54 caliber balls was all they ever needed or wanted and theirs would say all you need is a long bow


I think our forefathers would have been beside themselves with joy to have the equipment we have today

.45 & .54 caliber round balls were far from ideal projectiles


Yep, they would be envious to some degree (some hard headed farts probably would think it's silly). They used that stuff because that's all they had. One day our great grand kids will be talking about how we were able to survive with the primitive garbage we're currently using. I believe anything that would have made it quicker and easier to put dinner on the table would have been welcomed.



pioneers much preferred conical bullets to roundballs. Indians dropped longbows for hunting when they acquired Kentucky rifles and later on Winchesters.


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So.... a .243 is not big enough and a .308 is no good but a 7mm-08 is a great choice.... they are basically the same thing!


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So.... a .243 is not big enough and a .308 is no good but a 7mm-08 is a great choice.... they are basically the same thing!


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.243 Win, 270 Win, 308 Win, 30-06 are Joe Sixpack rounds. Thank God for Joe Sixpack.



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Lol I obviously don't know as much as everyone else in here, but I love my .243! Hasn't let me down yet.

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When you look at the 308 it is outclassed by just about anything. I’ve never understood why anyone wanted one in the last 50 years with all of the better options out there. I’ve never owned one and probably never will.


It's one of the best options for a 16"-18" barreled suppressed hunting rifle.



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1. 6.5 creedmoor
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