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Re: 18 wheeler truck drivers [Re: blanked] #7650838 11/03/19 07:58 PM
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The OTR drivers are usually pretty good. Now, the sand haulers in the Permian are a different set. I'm guessing they get paid by the load and not the mile and I am pretty darn sure they aren't keeping logs because they are constantly on the roads at way over the speed limits. And yes, many of them cannot speak a lick of English.

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Originally Posted by deerfeeder
The OTR drivers are usually pretty good. Now, the sand haulers in the Permian are a different set. I'm guessing they get paid by the load and not the mile and I am pretty darn sure they aren't keeping logs because they are constantly on the roads at way over the speed limits. And yes, many of them cannot speak a lick of English.

The oilfield is importing sand from Mexico??? Or is the oilfield is hiring illegals???


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Originally Posted by SR025
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18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


I live off Eldorado and North Dallas Tollway, the police will pull them over about 1 miles east of the tollway off Eldorado in a baseball park, they will have dozens of them pulled over in the parking lot and writing them tickets right and left.

I have seen this on a pretty regular basis


They are not necessarily writing them tickets. Probably just doing DOT inspections which could end with tickets or not.


You go thru a DOT inspection... your getting a ticket.... could be a warning but a citation none the less.


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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


Any experience with truck driving?

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Originally Posted by TEXASLEFTY
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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


I live off Eldorado and North Dallas Tollway, the police will pull them over about 1 miles east of the tollway off Eldorado in a baseball park, they will have dozens of them pulled over in the parking lot and writing them tickets right and left.

I have seen this on a pretty regular basis


They are not necessarily writing them tickets. Probably just doing DOT inspections which could end with tickets or not.


You go thru a DOT inspection... your getting a ticket.... could be a warning but a citation none the less.

Not true, they hand out gold stars for perfect inspections.

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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


The trucks are already inspected pre and post trip, thoroughly. That’s what’s required, anyway. Would you like an inspection mid trip? How about more laws for those that don’t follow existing laws?

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There are good & bad in every profession, trade & walk of life.

Your broad brush can be used on any profession, trade, labor, race or religion.

The 'bad ones' are the ones you hear about, they stick out in the crowd & get more attention overall and tarnish the reputations of the good ones.

Yes, there are good ones in every single example of whatever, the majority are.

Your negative perception of a whole, based on a tiny subset you actually see or know, isn't accurate.

As accurate as saying;
All hunters are trashy people, throwing it all along the roadways, letting blow out of their pickups, they all dump their camp trash & carcasses on the side of county roads.
They all shoot baby deer, don't tag deer they don't feel like tagging, camp meat, cut backstraps out & throw the rest in the brush.
They all drive like maniacs going to & from, cut people off, pass in dangerous places, none of them know how to properly secure their load in bed or on trailer,
They all play with firearms while drinking alcohol, they all drink & drive.

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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads



100% agree. I travel HWY 80 everyday around 10-1030pm. Multiple times a week either I am getting pushed to the shoulder or another car is by a trucker, usually UPS or FEDEX, they seem to be the worst. And yes, the 65 mph trucker being passed by the 65.5 mph trucker is bullchit

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


The trucks are already inspected pre and post trip, thoroughly. That’s what’s required, anyway. Would you like an inspection mid trip? How about more laws for those that don’t follow existing laws?


I'm sure what's "required" and what's "done" are completely two different things. Paperwork is pencil whipped all the time in every profession.


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Originally Posted by Rustler
There are good & bad in every profession, trade & walk of life.

Your broad brush can be used on any profession, trade, labor, race or religion.

The 'bad ones' are the ones you hear about, they stick out in the crowd & get more attention overall and tarnish the reputations of the good ones.

Yes, there are good ones in every single example of whatever, the majority are.

Your negative perception of a whole, based on a tiny subset you actually see or know, isn't accurate.

As accurate as saying;
All hunters are trashy people, throwing it all along the roadways, letting blow out of their pickups, they all dump their camp trash & carcasses on the side of county roads.
They all shoot baby deer, don't tag deer they don't feel like tagging, camp meat, cut backstraps out & throw the rest in the brush.
They all drive like maniacs going to & from, cut people off, pass in dangerous places, none of them know how to properly secure their load in bed or on trailer,
They all play with firearms while drinking alcohol, they all drink & drive.






You didn’t read what I posted. 10 to 12 wrecks. Up to 20, 18 wheelers involved in all these wrecks. Another words not one passenger car was involved. What does that tell you. Then what I said was after all those wrecks every one of the 18 wheelers still on the road continued to drive 80 mph that was driving near me.

This is hardly an isolated incident

Now what I do agree is the trucking industry is changing for the worst like many other professions.

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real simple way to stop all of it, put 4 wheelers under the same laws and regs.

let the fun begin!



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I'm around truck drivers daily and it's important to point out that there's two different species. You have your over the road long haul and then you have your others and they're different as night and day. Your local drivers probably account for most of the accidents, here in the Basin that number has to be closer to 75 %.


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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


The trucks are already inspected pre and post trip, thoroughly. That’s what’s required, anyway. Would you like an inspection mid trip? How about more laws for those that don’t follow existing laws?


I'm sure what's "required" and what's "done" are completely two different things. Paperwork is pencil whipped all the time in every profession.


Of course. Just like everything else, it comes down to accountability.

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Originally Posted by blanked
Originally Posted by Rustler
There are good & bad in every profession, trade & walk of life.

Your broad brush can be used on any profession, trade, labor, race or religion.

The 'bad ones' are the ones you hear about, they stick out in the crowd & get more attention overall and tarnish the reputations of the good ones.

Yes, there are good ones in every single example of whatever, the majority are.

Your negative perception of a whole, based on a tiny subset you actually see or know, isn't accurate.

As accurate as saying;
All hunters are trashy people, throwing it all along the roadways, letting blow out of their pickups, they all dump their camp trash & carcasses on the side of county roads.
They all shoot baby deer, don't tag deer they don't feel like tagging, camp meat, cut backstraps out & throw the rest in the brush.
They all drive like maniacs going to & from, cut people off, pass in dangerous places, none of them know how to properly secure their load in bed or on trailer,
They all play with firearms while drinking alcohol, they all drink & drive.






You didn’t read what I posted. 10 to 12 wrecks. Up to 20, 18 wheelers involved in all these wrecks. Another words not one passenger car was involved. What does that tell you. Then what I said was after all those wrecks every one of the 18 wheelers still on the road continued to drive 80 mph that was driving near me.

This is hardly an isolated incident

Now what I do agree is the trucking industry is changing for the worst like many other professions.

If it was that big of an accident I'm pretty sure there's an article somewhere can you please post it. I would like to read it.

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Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


What driving experience do you have?

I'll tell you why most of this, if not all of this isn't a good idea when I have time.

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Originally Posted by blanked
Originally Posted by Rustler
There are good & bad in every profession, trade & walk of life.

Your broad brush can be used on any profession, trade, labor, race or religion.

The 'bad ones' are the ones you hear about, they stick out in the crowd & get more attention overall and tarnish the reputations of the good ones.

Yes, there are good ones in every single example of whatever, the majority are.

Your negative perception of a whole, based on a tiny subset you actually see or know, isn't accurate.

As accurate as saying;
All hunters are trashy people, throwing it all along the roadways, letting blow out of their pickups, they all dump their camp trash & carcasses on the side of county roads.
They all shoot baby deer, don't tag deer they don't feel like tagging, camp meat, cut backstraps out & throw the rest in the brush.
They all drive like maniacs going to & from, cut people off, pass in dangerous places, none of them know how to properly secure their load in bed or on trailer,
They all play with firearms while drinking alcohol, they all drink & drive.






You didn’t read what I posted. 10 to 12 wrecks. Up to 20, 18 wheelers involved in all these wrecks. Another words not one passenger car was involved. What does that tell you. Then what I said was after all those wrecks every one of the 18 wheelers still on the road continued to drive 80 mph that was driving near me.

This is hardly an isolated incident

Now what I do agree is the trucking industry is changing for the worst like many other professions.


Hard to say if it is getting worse. Definitely more traffic, 18 and 4 wheels.
I drive 60,000 mile a year on highways and Interstates in Texas, New Mexico, Louisiana, and Oklahoma. I could write a list of four wheeler accidents that I see, everyday. 18 wheeler accidents no so much.
It just seems not to be a good method to judge all 18 wheelers by one trip from Albuquerque to Amarillo.


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Originally Posted by Simple Searcher
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Originally Posted by Rustler
There are good & bad in every profession, trade & walk of life.

Your broad brush can be used on any profession, trade, labor, race or religion.

The 'bad ones' are the ones you hear about, they stick out in the crowd & get more attention overall and tarnish the reputations of the good ones.

Yes, there are good ones in every single example of whatever, the majority are.

Your negative perception of a whole, based on a tiny subset you actually see or know, isn't accurate.

As accurate as saying;
All hunters are trashy people, throwing it all along the roadways, letting blow out of their pickups, they all dump their camp trash & carcasses on the side of county roads.
They all shoot baby deer, don't tag deer they don't feel like tagging, camp meat, cut backstraps out & throw the rest in the brush.
They all drive like maniacs going to & from, cut people off, pass in dangerous places, none of them know how to properly secure their load in bed or on trailer,
They all play with firearms while drinking alcohol, they all drink & drive.






You didn’t read what I posted. 10 to 12 wrecks. Up to 20, 18 wheelers involved in all these wrecks. Another words not one passenger car was involved. What does that tell you. Then what I said was after all those wrecks every one of the 18 wheelers still on the road continued to drive 80 mph that was driving near me.

This is hardly an isolated incident

Now what I do agree is the trucking industry is changing for the worst like many other professions.


Hard to say if it is getting worse. Definitely more traffic, 18 and 4 wheels.
I drive 60,000 mile a year on highways and Interstates in Texas, New Mexico, Louisiana, and Oklahoma. I could write a list of four wheeler accidents that I see, everyday. 18 wheeler accidents no so much.
It just seems not to be a good method to judge all 18 wheelers by one trip from Albuquerque to Amarillo.


Throw in ice and high winds if this the same ones I'm thinking about, when that last front blew in. That's a windy stretch of road.


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What’s up with these drivers today. In Houston it’s normal to see them driving 80 in the fast lane , aggressive lane changes. Few days ago I was on I40 between Albuquerque and Amarillo and there was about 10 to 12 , 18 wheelers wrecked on the side of the road. Many wrecks involved 2 or 3 at a time. One of the wrecks had the interstate blocked for a couple hours. All due to ice on the roads. Despite all this those truckers continue to drive 80, even over bridges.
I despise 18 wheeler truck drivers

It wasn’t like this 15 years ago. They drove in the far right lanes at a safe speed. Never, never involved in wrecks back then

Have had my CDl for 21 years, have worked for a major food service company for 16 years. There are definitely some bad truck drivers out there, there are also LOTS of bad 4 wheel drivers out there. Every single night someone is cutting me, pulling between my truck and a driveway while I'm pulling into a store, going around my trailer while I'm backing. We are controlled by DOT HOS and have a schedule to keep. IMO it seems the same people who are griping about truck drivers, seem like the same people that have a fit when we are not there on time because of bad weather, accidents, traffic etc. Point is no one on the road respects anyone anymore. That guy trying to pass the other truck at 65.5 might be doing it for a reason,it's not a conspiracy we are not out to ruin your day

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
18 wheeler should...

1. keep to the right or center lane; left lane travel should be ILLEGAL unless traffic scenario dictates left lane travel.
2. never exceed 65 mph; to be regulated and enforced by trans authority, violations and fines could/should be back dated
3. have truck & equipment inspected more frequently, too much junk on the roads


What driving experience do you have?

I'll tell you why most of this, if not all of this isn't a good idea when I have time.


None.

No need, I'm good. Pretty much have my opinion made up due to what I see on the road every day all across this country.


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There is a 10% factor in every profession, occupation etc., that is flaky. That goes for truck drivers, 4 wheel drivers, bicycle riders even pedestrians, that have no business on the roads and streets without more training.


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What’s up with these drivers today. In Houston it’s normal to see them driving 80 in the fast lane , aggressive lane changes. Few days ago I was on I40 between Albuquerque and Amarillo and there was about 10 to 12 , 18 wheelers wrecked on the side of the road. Many wrecks involved 2 or 3 at a time. One of the wrecks had the interstate blocked for a couple hours. All due to ice on the roads. Despite all this those truckers continue to drive 80, even over bridges.
I despise 18 wheeler truck drivers

It wasn’t like this 15 years ago. They drove in the far right lanes at a safe speed. Never, never involved in wrecks back then

Have had my CDl for 21 years, have worked for a major food service company for 16 years. There are definitely some bad truck drivers out there, there are also LOTS of bad 4 wheel drivers out there. Every single night someone is cutting me, pulling between my truck and a driveway while I'm pulling into a store, going around my trailer while I'm backing. We are controlled by DOT HOS and have a schedule to keep. IMO it seems the same people who are griping about truck drivers, seem like the same people that have a fit when we are not there on time because of bad weather, accidents, traffic etc. Point is no one on the road respects anyone anymore. That guy trying to pass the other truck at 65.5 might be doing it for a reason,it's not a conspiracy we are not out to ruin your day


Instant friends, I feel your pain brother. You sound like one of our drivers.

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Meth, illegal aliens. Go to midland/Odessa area. It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. I’m a pipelner. I’ve driven all across America. You’d better be watching everyone out there. My wife was rear-ended by an illegal 33 months ago in San Antonio. She just underwent neck fusion surgery Thursday. I’m $200,000. In the hole . Lost house, everything. Be Careful!

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What’s up with these drivers today. In Houston it’s normal to see them driving 80 in the fast lane , aggressive lane changes. Few days ago I was on I40 between Albuquerque and Amarillo and there was about 10 to 12 , 18 wheelers wrecked on the side of the road. Many wrecks involved 2 or 3 at a time. One of the wrecks had the interstate blocked for a couple hours. All due to ice on the roads. Despite all this those truckers continue to drive 80, even over bridges.
I despise 18 wheeler truck drivers

It wasn’t like this 15 years ago. They drove in the far right lanes at a safe speed. Never, never involved in wrecks back then

Have had my CDl for 21 years, have worked for a major food service company for 16 years. There are definitely some bad truck drivers out there, there are also LOTS of bad 4 wheel drivers out there. Every single night someone is cutting me, pulling between my truck and a driveway while I'm pulling into a store, going around my trailer while I'm backing. We are controlled by DOT HOS and have a schedule to keep. IMO it seems the same people who are griping about truck drivers, seem like the same people that have a fit when we are not there on time because of bad weather, accidents, traffic etc. Point is no one on the road respects anyone anymore. That guy trying to pass the other truck at 65.5 might be doing it for a reason,it's not a conspiracy we are not out to ruin your day


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