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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Davisjar123ec]
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09/22/19 11:31 PM
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Then who cares what it scored? I’m more interested in how much was it? If cheap enough I may take a pet You did since you guessed the score on the OP HF buck and this one. Then got butthurt when you found out you were low and it was HF.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Davisjar123ec]
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09/23/19 12:00 AM
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: stxranchman]
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09/23/19 02:16 AM
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Not booty hurt, just no interest in high fence pets! But that 8 is mid to high 130s
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/23/19 03:34 AM
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148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Davisjar123ec]
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09/23/19 11:08 AM
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Then who cares what it scored? I’m more interested in how much was it? If cheap enough I may take a pet Who cares what you think and what you’re interested in? Congrats for outing yourself as a poor idiot that doesn’t know how to score a deer.....
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/23/19 01:53 PM
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Yalls scores are substantially lower than what he scores
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/23/19 01:58 PM
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Yalls scores are substantially lower than what he scores I have him close to 200" 113" down 85" Up
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Davisjar123ec]
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09/23/19 03:40 PM
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148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. Not booty hurt, just no interest in high fence pets! But that 8 is mid to high 130s
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/23/19 06:08 PM
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On the 10 I'd guess 189 3/8 gross.
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Re: How big of a 10?
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09/23/19 06:12 PM
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Back to the original buck. Admittedly its easy for me to chime in late after everyone has guessed and especially since OP said all were low. This buck is huge. IMO, its a classic example of a deer that is very "normal proportionally." You first look at him and its just a real big 10 point-maybe similar to a lot of 160 or 170s that we are all "used" to seeing. We just aren't USED TO seeing a 10 that's a lot bigger than that. The issue with him is that EVERY single measurement is just very big. Not any one measurement really stands out compared to the others. IMO you always have to start with the beam and then consciously or subconsciously you compare everything to that foundation. Of course to get the beam right you have to have some idea of body size and he says its a big bodied deer. Besides just a gut feeling, I try to look at the length of his head from nose to back of head and my deer are usually 12" to 13". I know STX has mentioned looking at ear length and eye to nose etc and I do the same. If you do that and then try to extrapolate that out onto his beam you get the idea his beam is very long. It goes back some and out some and then way way up. That beam I think is easily 26 and could be closer to 30. Once you establish(or assume) that then compare other measurements off that. Doing that I get brows 8ish, 2s 11, 3s 13 and 4s 9 or 10. Mass is the toughest but im giving 20 to the side. On spread, once again hes so well proportioned that spread doesn't jump out at you. But that entire rack is just so big I think he may be 20 inside although at first impression I would never think that. If you add all that up you get close to 200. When I first looked my gut feeling at a glance was 170s but I think hes way way better. Rather someone thinks score is IMPORTANT or not doesn't really matter to me but I really enjoy trying to score and always want to learn more about it. If anyone thinks im way off base then pick me apart(just be nice.) The bucks a beauty for sure.
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Re: How big of a 10?
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09/23/19 07:13 PM
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Back to the original buck. Admittedly its easy for me to chime in late after everyone has guessed and especially since OP said all were low. This buck is huge. IMO, its a classic example of a deer that is very "normal proportionally." You first look at him and its just a real big 10 point-maybe similar to a lot of 160 or 170s that we are all "used" to seeing. We just aren't USED TO seeing a 10 that's a lot bigger than that. The issue with him is that EVERY single measurement is just very big. Not any one measurement really stands out compared to the others. IMO you always have to start with the beam and then consciously or subconsciously you compare everything to that foundation. Of course to get the beam right you have to have some idea of body size and he says its a big bodied deer. Besides just a gut feeling, I try to look at the length of his head from nose to back of head and my deer are usually 12" to 13". I know STX has mentioned looking at ear length and eye to nose etc and I do the same. If you do that and then try to extrapolate that out onto his beam you get the idea his beam is very long. It goes back some and out some and then way way up. That beam I think is easily 26 and could be closer to 30. Once you establish(or assume) that then compare other measurements off that. Doing that I get brows 8ish, 2s 11, 3s 13 and 4s 9 or 10. Mass is the toughest but im giving 20 to the side. On spread, once again hes so well proportioned that spread doesn't jump out at you. But that entire rack is just so big I think he may be 20 inside although at first impression I would never think that. If you add all that up you get close to 200. When I first looked my gut feeling at a glance was 170s but I think hes way way better. Rather someone thinks score is IMPORTANT or not doesn't really matter to me but I really enjoy trying to score and always want to learn more about it. If anyone thinks im way off base then pick me apart(just be nice.) The bucks a beauty for sure. Very well put and spot on. I have him at 192-194
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Re: How big of a 10?
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09/23/19 07:45 PM
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Back to the original buck. Admittedly its easy for me to chime in late after everyone has guessed and especially since OP said all were low. This buck is huge. IMO, its a classic example of a deer that is very "normal proportionally." You first look at him and its just a real big 10 point-maybe similar to a lot of 160 or 170s that we are all "used" to seeing. We just aren't USED TO seeing a 10 that's a lot bigger than that. The issue with him is that EVERY single measurement is just very big. Not any one measurement really stands out compared to the others. IMO you always have to start with the beam and then consciously or subconsciously you compare everything to that foundation. Of course to get the beam right you have to have some idea of body size and he says its a big bodied deer. Besides just a gut feeling, I try to look at the length of his head from nose to back of head and my deer are usually 12" to 13". I know STX has mentioned looking at ear length and eye to nose etc and I do the same. If you do that and then try to extrapolate that out onto his beam you get the idea his beam is very long. It goes back some and out some and then way way up. That beam I think is easily 26 and could be closer to 30. Once you establish(or assume) that then compare other measurements off that. Doing that I get brows 8ish, 2s 11, 3s 13 and 4s 9 or 10. Mass is the toughest but im giving 20 to the side. On spread, once again hes so well proportioned that spread doesn't jump out at you. But that entire rack is just so big I think he may be 20 inside although at first impression I would never think that. If you add all that up you get close to 200. When I first looked my gut feeling at a glance was 170s but I think hes way way better. Rather someone thinks score is IMPORTANT or not doesn't really matter to me but I really enjoy trying to score and always want to learn more about it. If anyone thinks im way off base then pick me apart(just be nice.) The bucks a beauty for sure. Very well put and spot on. I have him at 192-194 Be sure and post up the kill pics and the score, he's a beauty.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Davisjar123ec]
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09/23/19 07:48 PM
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Not booty hurt, just no interest in high fence pets! But that 8 is mid to high 130s I paid $1500.00 for 10 acres last year and killed a really nice buck. The hidden secret is smaller places. I have hunted large places for 20 years of my life and have killed some decent bucks, but now I only take small places and have killed 4 in last five years over 150 class and one being 173 5/8 score. For the folks that say it�s a waste of time I�d love to share pics of the bucks off of them. Someone with my experience would lease it! I So since your an expert hunting small properties please post up your pics so we can score them............let's hear about the exciting hunts as well....inquiring minds want to know..........
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Re: How big of a 10?
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09/23/19 09:24 PM
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148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. Agreed, right at 150 but I may be a little high on his mass.
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Re: How big of a 10?
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09/23/19 10:28 PM
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Not booty hurt, just no interest in high fence pets! But that 8 is mid to high 130s You are still low. He was 145. 17.1 inside spread, 22 and 23.6 MBs, 6.2 and 5.3 on G1s, 11.5 and 10.3 on G2s, and 9.3 and 10.6 on G3s with mass R was 4.1, 3.4, 3.4 and 2.3 and L mass was 4.0, 3.5, 3.7 and 2.3 for a total of 145. 148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. 148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. Agreed, right at 150 but I may be a little high on his mass. You will be high on mass since the deer here do not carry much mass at all. I was high on my guess in the field that day I took the pics of him and the other buck fighting. I guessed him at 148 gross with 30" of mass and he only had 27 or shade over. I could not shoot him that day since I had killed my buck(AR county) already during archery season. So I called my cousin to come down and we hunted him over the next couple of days. He was able to shoot him on a Saturday morning about 9 am. He made a beautiful mount.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/23/19 10:35 PM
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Back to the original buck. Admittedly its easy for me to chime in late after everyone has guessed and especially since OP said all were low. This buck is huge. IMO, its a classic example of a deer that is very "normal proportionally." You first look at him and its just a real big 10 point-maybe similar to a lot of 160 or 170s that we are all "used" to seeing. We just aren't USED TO seeing a 10 that's a lot bigger than that. The issue with him is that EVERY single measurement is just very big. Not any one measurement really stands out compared to the others. IMO you always have to start with the beam and then consciously or subconsciously you compare everything to that foundation. Of course to get the beam right you have to have some idea of body size and he says its a big bodied deer. Besides just a gut feeling, I try to look at the length of his head from nose to back of head and my deer are usually 12" to 13". I know STX has mentioned looking at ear length and eye to nose etc and I do the same. If you do that and then try to extrapolate that out onto his beam you get the idea his beam is very long. It goes back some and out some and then way way up. That beam I think is easily 26 and could be closer to 30. Once you establish(or assume) that then compare other measurements off that. Doing that I get brows 8ish, 2s 11, 3s 13 and 4s 9 or 10. Mass is the toughest but im giving 20 to the side. On spread, once again hes so well proportioned that spread doesn't jump out at you. But that entire rack is just so big I think he may be 20 inside although at first impression I would never think that. If you add all that up you get close to 200. When I first looked my gut feeling at a glance was 170s but I think hes way way better. Rather someone thinks score is IMPORTANT or not doesn't really matter to me but I really enjoy trying to score and always want to learn more about it. If anyone thinks im way off base then pick me apart(just be nice.) The bucks a beauty for sure. Very well put and spot on. I have him at 192-194 How long did you have his G2's at? I can not see one well enough to judge so just called them both the same...although the left one may be longer. His left side is hidden in the tine cluster also so I may be low on my guess on the tine length on that side. NT pts? I called him 6" total. My guess was with 107-109" down frame with 7" brows, 10" 2's, 11" 3's and 8" 4's(all are average side to side) which is 70" of tines. With 6" of NT he is easily 184 to 186. I used 7" ear length on my guesses so if he has 8" ears then I am low.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: stxranchman]
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09/24/19 12:22 AM
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Not booty hurt, just no interest in high fence pets! But that 8 is mid to high 130s You are still low. He was 145. 17.1 inside spread, 22 and 23.6 MBs, 6.2 and 5.3 on G1s, 11.5 and 10.3 on G2s, and 9.3 and 10.6 on G3s with mass R was 4.1, 3.4, 3.4 and 2.3 and L mass was 4.0, 3.5, 3.7 and 2.3 for a total of 145. 148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. 148 1/8th on the 8pt. Beautiful deer stx. Agreed, right at 150 but I may be a little high on his mass. You will be high on mass since the deer here do not carry much mass at all. I was high on my guess in the field that day I took the pics of him and the other buck fighting. I guessed him at 148 gross with 30" of mass and he only had 27 or shade over. I could not shoot him that day since I had killed my buck(AR county) already during archery season. So I called my cousin to come down and we hunted him over the next couple of days. He was able to shoot him on a Saturday morning about 9 am. He made a beautiful mount. Lol... I was estimating 30” of mass.
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Txhunter65]
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09/24/19 03:06 AM
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Give me your phone number and I’ll send you pics and you post them because I have tried! I would love to see yalls guess on scores! I think you would all be way high
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Re: How big of a 10?
[Re: Cody Malone]
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09/24/19 03:23 AM
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I would love to here what y’all think they score. I’ll tell ya after they have there opinions
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