Maybe there should be a blanket easement across all of the rural areas of Texas that allow the residents to harvest the animals since the wildlife doesn't belong to said property owner?

Maybe there should be a blanket easement across all of the rural areas of Texas that allow the residents to harvest the animals since the wildlife doesn't belong to said property owner?

You sound like a prime candidate for finding 100 - 500 acres to lease just for you & the family, lease the whole place, no other lease members.

Should fall somewhere between $1500 - $ 8,000 depending on all sorts of things,, then other than following TPWD regulations & LO rules do whatever you like.
They are out there, you have to put effort into finding them, for the most part leases don't come find you.

Many are non resident LO's, many folks moved to town for a job, medical facilities, grandkids and lease their places just to know someone 'looks after it' occasionally, maybe timber co land is a good fit for you.

Not all LO's have the same property rules, not all are just about the $.

LO's have no duty to lease to anyone for any price, most certainly won't lease to someone that has a poor attitude or thinks LO's are money hungry just looking to rip people off.

There is a difference between a deer lease and a hunting / recreational lease.

Deer leases are more focused & set up for deer hunting, sure many offer all legal game, varmints, predators, fishing, as long as none of those other activities interfere in any way with the main goal of deer hunting. Sometimes that includes some sort of restrictions for off season activities or access.
If something about the lease terms doesn't appeal to you, don't lease the property, real dang simple.

Just like duck & goose leases focus on ducks & geese and quail leases focus on quail. Folks on these leases don't want deer hunters messing up their hunting.
Dove leases generally are for days during or dove season only. They don't want deer hunters scouting, setting up blinds & filling feeders while they're trying to kill doves.

Hunting/recreational leases are not as focused on one species, generally more relaxed within the LO property rules.
Don't like them, don't lease it, simple.

All your 'hard earned money' for lease payment doesn't come close to covering what I spent on pipe & rock for an entrance that washed out & partially collapsed last spring.
Much less any other costs associated with normal land / rural property maintenance, repair & improvement.

If you owned 250 acres within 3 hours of a major city how much would you charge strangers to lease it?
What would your property rules be?

I said it before in one of your other threads, your attitude & the things you post have already excluded you from thousands of acres of opportunities.
That number goes up every time you get agitated & spout off more nonsense about LO's, property rules, lease costs and the commonly accepted methods of deer hunting in this state.

In other words every time you complain about or belittle folks about hunting in Tx you make finding a lease much more difficult instead of easi

This idea may gain more traction in the Socialist forum. Wait, we don't have a socialist forum.

Maybe there should be a blanket easement across all of the rural areas of Texas that allow the residents to harvest the animals since the wildlife doesn't belong to said property owner?

After reading some of these comments there is no doubt Texas will be a blue state very soon! No way can some of y'all claim to be conservative yet have the views that you have. Good grief!!!!!

I said it before in one of your other threads, your attitude & the things you post have already excluded you from thousands of acres of opportunities.

That number goes up every time you get agitated & spout off more nonsense about LO's, property rules, lease costs and the commonly accepted methods of deer hunting in this state.

In other words every time you complain about or belittle folks about hunting in Tx you make finding a lease much more difficult instead of easier.

Well at least this time you offered some advice.

Thanks, kind of.

a lot of landowners don’t want anyone hunting their land for any price, mostly because they might run into someone like you

I've tried to help in most if not all of my responses to you, nothing I can do about it if you see it a different way.

Urban sprawl, housing subdivisions being built on what not long ago were large parcels many were hunting grounds, larger properties being subdivided into 5 - 40 acre tracts & sold, LO's no longer interested in the hassles of dealing with an alarming amount of 'hunters' with entitled attitudes that flat out ignore rules specifically stated in a contract they sign.
All take large chunk of acreage out of the statewide lease pool every year and it has been going on for many years.

Less acreage available to lease every year, same or more hunters every year, everything else in your life and LO's life increases in cost every year, everything you own requires maintenance somebody has to do it & pay for it.
But mean old LO's that just want to rip off hunters are the problem...

BS.

Ive asked the same questions a dozen times, nothing but crickets.

If you owned 250 acres within 3 hours of a major city how much would you charge strangers to lease it?
What would your property rules be?

We lease out our place for a good price that isn't too cheap but isn't gouging either. Good thing about that is we get to be extremely picky and never have to deal with whiney folks because of it. We need some help with something they have no issue helping instead of feeling entitled or mistreated also. Even better don't actually need the money so its no issue to just take it off the market and keep it to family only if issues come up

This is exactly how it ought to be. I've never been a landowner, so I was the helper on the leases I have been a part of, and always glad to do that when help was needed.


Want to whine about it there is lots of public land in Texas that can be hunted cheap and there are tons of ranches for sale you can go buy yourself.

At face value, this is essentially correct. But not everyone is in a position to buy. I hunt public.

If your place was the last place one could hunt in the world, I'd just quit. That's how much I cant stand you.

I've long since gone to bed and got up.

My first post in this thread wasnt an attitude, i was stating a fact. The OP can expect to see prices continue to climb based on those facts.

Absolutely you should increase your price, inflation affects everything and everybody. The land you lease is worth what you can get.

Get what you can get! As sure as a landowner willing to lease is gonna see what he can get and be choosy about his tenants/lessees, a hunter is gonna see what he can get too.

You ought not to blast a hunter for trying to see what he can get.

Twas more opinion than fact....but that's Jes my opinion....

[quote=laid over]I've long since gone to bed and got up.

I vote you go back to bed - give it up