There's one more option. Different loaders, one rifle, one shooter. Ammo shipped out.

I can offer to shoot 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, .223. 5 rounds loadwd and fired. ES and group size reported. Yall pick the distance the group needs to be shot.

Only .308 I own is a gas gun. Which is not the appropriate rifle for this test.

Works for me. I was hoping for more than 5 rounds fires from each loader. I can ship the matching components to anyone. I was going to donate the what will be once fired Lapua brass to the rifle owner. How about 15-20 rounds each with the 5 shot sequences you mentioned. 500 yards on paper will tell the tale I think.

CSD mentioned he wanted to be part of this but hasn’t committed to one of the task.

15 to 20 rounds per loader is more shooting time and cooling time than I am willing to give it. That will turn into a full day.

But you get 100 rounds of Lapua brass free. Lol

Is a full day of your time worth $80 to you?

Nope! Hence the lol at the end.

Problem with one gun but multiple people loading is who is sizing brass? Is it virgin unfired or once fired? There are different thought processes to sizing and how much to do or not do.

New virgin brass to be prepped by the person reloading as they see fit unless otherwise specified in the load data from the rifle owner.

Funny. Lots of guys here talk a lot. Some shoot a lot. I made a very very honest post.

To me, accuracy is paramount. Some want to argue speed of loading ammo. That’s cool too.

In the end, results matter. If your Prometheus throws faster than xyz loader is fine. If it doesn’t shoot better than the layman then where is the relevance.

There was this one time, a few years back when I was shooting this match. I went against all kinds of folks shooting fancy rifles and such. I have fancy rifles, but wanted to shoot this match with a non-fancy rifle, which I did. Ended up placing somewhere in the top 5 I think.

Someone there told me “it ain’t the arrow, it’s the Indian “.

You know who you are, and I am pretty sure I have that on video.

Again, point being, skill trumps cash any day of the week.

Pretty much every response to this thread, by everyone agrees with your first post. As well as explains what spending more money begets. And somehow that's still offensive to you.

Geez

Speed and quality are two different things

I can make good ammo slowly or quickly.

I can also make bad ammo slowly or quickly.

To me the three most import steps are , amount of gunpowder, seating a bullet and resizing the shell.

Seating and resizing can be done on expensive dies or budget friendly dies. There is some difference between the dies but generally perform the same function.

Powder charge is the more difficult one. I can charge on the Prometheus fast and at a high quality. But I can get the same quality charge with a good triple beam balance, albeit not as fast.

I took a class with someone with a Prometheus and he let me play with it. We were charging on his chargmaster as that’s what I had at home. We compared the two machines...the Prometheus had half the ES and took far less time to load. The charge master had a good ES but took longer.

One thing every reloader has to do is define quality needed. Are your shooting 500 yards or 1500 yards as that has huge impacts on weather Ammo is “quality”