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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: Red Pill]
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05/17/19 02:58 PM
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That's "guyed", not "guard."
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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05/17/19 03:16 PM
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redchevy
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I would either pen the feeders or use tall enough crank up feeders and anchor the legs well. Used crank up feeders for years on a lease with cattle and they never hurt a feeder one. Didn't have pens around them. Also our place now had cows on it for a year with unfenced hang em high feeders with no issues. They tore the hell out of our free choice protein feeders though
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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05/17/19 04:08 PM
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Old Shakie
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If your feeder just happens to dump a lot of corn or let’s say all of it and a cow comes up and eats all of it and bloats or founders and dies the owner of the cows will not be happy !!!!! Just fence it off and be done The price of his cows can be priced out of this world !!! Yes, too much raw corn can kill a cow or at least a calf. I lost a good calf one time when it found a sack of corn....killed him dead as can be. Having said that it would take several pounds to do so. Feed lots feed corn but it is ground up and fed with hay in a balanced diet.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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05/20/19 03:51 PM
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Im gonna chime in quick on this one cause I figure about 95% of the responses are gonna disagree with me. We have never fenced feeders and never had a problem and yes we have cows. I don't know that it matters where but we have hunted in NW Tx and run 25 to 30 broadcast feeders year round for corn for 10 to 15 years. Protein would be different but we don't feed it and that wasn't your question. We run tposts down at least 3 legs and usually 4 and wrap each high and low. No cow or hog has ever damaged one. Hogs will eat the corn but even though we have hogs they are nomadic and rarely monopolize any feeder long. But you didn't ask about hogs either and a lot of guys don't want to fence out hogs cause they like to shoot em. We have never had a problem with the cows eating the corn to any extent at all. My thinking is that their tongues are not designed to pick up each little kernel and its not enough bang for a cows buck to bother with it. Maybe if you dump a lot of corn in a small area they could get used to it and then have a problem. Every situation can be very different but bottom line in the real world in our situation its never been a problem. If you factor in the time and expense of the fence it is well worth trying it with out the fence. Anyone that has ALWAYS fenced may not know what they don't know. I know for sure that most are gonna disagree but Sick Train just consider trying it at first and you can always add it later. It you fence it first thing then you will never know if it was necessary. My 2cents.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: Sick Train]
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05/20/19 08:19 PM
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Double Naught Spy
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A cow's mouth is too big to pick corn off the ground very well. They may stomp it all into the dirt but they can't actually eat much. But they can hang around and bother your targets and they can eat it out of a pile, such as if they knock the feeder over. Only time will tell but IMO better safe than sorry.
That is why they use their tongues for so many things. When my neighbor's cattle get into my place, they will hoover up all the corn they can reach. They may not be efficient, but they have nothing but time and nowhere to go. They will bump the feeder to cause it to drop corn.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: Sick Train]
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05/21/19 01:32 PM
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May look funny but I have been reusing trampoline frames around my feeders for many years. I bow hunt and never like shooting through hog panels or fence. Cows have never knocked over a feeder.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: Sick Train]
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05/21/19 02:32 PM
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landsurveyor
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I hunted with a guy years ago that used those trampoline frames and never would have believed it if I didn't see it myself. Cows would do a couple of circles if that and then move on. Pretty cool
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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05/21/19 02:46 PM
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I guess it depends on the cows. On our lease in San Saba they would have gone right through that or the smaller ones under it. Simple solution if it works though.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: krmitchell]
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05/21/19 03:10 PM
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I guess it depends on the cows. On our lease in San Saba they would have gone right through that or the smaller ones under it. Simple solution if it works though. We have had calves go under and not do any damage. I know if a bad cow or bull wanted to do do damage or was hungry enough, nothing could stop them. I have just been very fortunate. The first year i used them, I did not anchor them down. A cow would put its head under the ring and just go under it by picking it up. After that I put three T posts around the frame and anchor it down.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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05/21/19 07:54 PM
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My solution the past 10 years has been a 14' TRIPOD FEEDER! Sure, cows and pigs stop and eat the feed, but they don't eat it all. Deer learn to pattern when the feeders go off, and you will often see them standing around waiting for the that bubba to go off and feed them!
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
[Re: jdickey]
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05/21/19 11:05 PM
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krmitchell
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My solution the past 10 years has been a 14' TRIPOD FEEDER! Sure, cows and pigs stop and eat the feed, but they don't eat it all. Deer learn to pattern when the feeders go off, and you will often see them standing around waiting for the that bubba to go off and feed them! That won’t stop them from sleeping under it and ruining your hunt. I’ve only ha done come take a feeder down, the rest of the time they were just laying around the feeder until we put up the pens.
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Re: Cattle and Feeders
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06/02/19 10:24 PM
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jdickey
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No, it won't stop the cows & pigs, but in 10 years, no cows have slept any where around that feeder; pigs learn quickly not to sleep around there, too, especially when a few of them start to disappear!!! A few night hunts usually keeps them away, and they learn all about what the WHITE LIGHT means and to get the hell out of there!!!
If you set your timers right, the only time pigs come is around midnight or maybe early morning and leave. Deer will come from sun up to sun down when the feeders go off; I even feed mid day. I see deer at night feeding before or after the pigs.
Of course, my main reason for not using a feed pen, was the fact that our lease was for sale, and if it sold, then no money and time was wasted on building feed pens; simply take down the tripod and go. Or even if conditions change at your lease, and you have to move....no need in building another feed pen.
Three years ago, two ranches around us were "high-fenced" causing the deer to change their pattern, and for me to move my feeder. By the way, our lease finally sold in February, after having been on there 10 years. So, relocated from Comanche County, down to another ranch 25 miles away in Mills County and relocating the tripod was also easily done!!! I had the feeder up and going in one day!
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