That’s correct. There is no right or wrong without context and knowing what the desired objective is.

I always point out that beyond 400 dialing for precision is a must for consistent success to be achieved.

Yet many of the “shooters” either don’t understand the use of MPBR in the field or simply refuse to acknowledge it exists.

I constantly hear stories from outfitters, guides, hunters, and landowners of the increasing number of folks who come hunting that only know dialing, and insist of dialing at any distance over 100 yards - wasting time and sometimes missing out on shot opportunities because of it.
These are the same type people calling others “idiots”, “numbskulls”, etc. if you don’t do it their way. They simply don’t know what they don’t know. Lol makes me wonder how they think any game was taken prior to the invention of dialing scopes.

Ok back on topic. After reading 11 pages I got sucked in. I'm going 260. The Creedmore is the final nail in the 260 coffin.

If you dial at 300 and you’re off 2” then you’re off 2”. If you’re using Maximum Point Blank Range theory you’re already 3” low at 300. Being off 2” low from your shot will (potentially) put you out of the vitals.

I can stack em pretty good from a bench but in a hunting scenario being off 2” is pretty common for me.

what does any of this mumbo jumbo have to do with certain cartridges losing popularity?


None of this has anything remotely to do with cartridges that were once popular but now are not.



I'll go with another cartridge that everyone always talks about but I never see in the field....the .257 Roberts. Its been written about for ages but I have only known one person ( and that was an acquaintance at best) who owned one. but its been written about in gun magazines for decades upon decades.

I don't know if the 257 Roberts was ever in glory as it was created before my time. But if it was, it has already fallen!

I had not even considered the original question. By the time I got here this topic was derailed. I’m afraid you may be right. Everyone I know that had one has either sold it or parked it in favor of the x47 or Creedmoor.

Back to topic 260 is dead from affluent commercial chambering, but bass will be around forever

it seems that Remington does a great job at marketing their rifles and a horrible job at marketing their cartridges.

BoBo it wasn’t meant to be a bet. General acceptable accuracy is +/- 3”. At least that’s the number I’ve always heard associated with MPBR. Given that 3” I don’t think there is a caliber out there that can hold in that +/- at 400 yards.

How about 343 yards for the 300 Wby.

I know it wasn’t a bet i just want to poke holes in someone’s else’s steel

it seems that Remington does a great job at marketing their rifles and a horrible job at marketing their cartridges.

As long as you have replacements when you come through the gate, no problem.

Agreed

Easy give the 223 a little love, 25/06 is still holding on well. Unfortunately I think that’s about only two strong ones left

well still got the random 300 RUM’s and a random 280’s

Why you leavin out my 7 Rem Mag?

I saw a new model 7 the other day in .260 Remington....beautiful rifle. 18" barrel, wood stock, great looking gun. first one I had seen chambered in that round in a long time.

it got a lot of press as being a underrated deer cartridge. Apparently it was the nail in the coffin to the then popular 250-3000 Savage.



I've been reading about the .257 Roberts for 20 years but have only seen 1 in the field. and that was in the early 2000's, chambered in a Ruger M77