Go back to your last 5 bans and tell me I am wrong I am not posting this to be a prick but just stating the obvious

I’m not taking your “I’m bucking for moderator” bait 2Beez.

Unlike you who purports to speak for all, I can only speak for myself. Speaking for myself, your lectures don’t mean squat to me.

I do not know what the hell you are talking about lol. There is no way I will ever be a mod on here.

Playing the victim card is funny though.

I really don't see where the argument is on that one, maybe it's just the way you read it.

Shot competition for about 20 years and there's no doubt it's true. In the early 70's I jumped fairly deep into Bench-rest, Combat and Silhouettes both center-fire and rim-fire. Haven't shot any matches since. Since then I've stuck with just hunting. Now as a comparison there's just no arguments. I was going through ammunition, rifles, scopes and the the gear to hold them together at a high rate, one of the reason that helped me get out of comp shooting. Now I stick to hunting and yes I'm one of those that don't like to waste ammo. I'll check sights before hunting this year and that's about the gist of it. My bird hunting goes about the same, opening day will be the first time I shoot a shotgun this year. I haven't bought a hunting rifle in the last 6 years and that was for my wife and yes I'm one of those that have ammo that's ten years old. I caught a sale at Walmart when they were selling off inventory and 8 boxes of of 300 Weatherby 150 grain Nosler Partitions, scored those for 20 bucks a box. There's about a 99% chance I'll never buy another round for that caliber in the rest of my life. My binoculars are at least 30 years old and since they're Zeiss I expect them to out live me. Nope there just no comparison, I probably spend a 10th of what I use to.

I have 3 of them, last one being a Ruger American Predator. My go to coyote rifle is the 243 pushing 58 to 70 grain bullets. Not a big fan of it as a deer rifle but with the right bullet it has very little problems handling it.

Well I was not wrong about Castle Doctrine. I was off on a detail. But it is rich how you want to bring up something from a totally different thread, and could not stay on topic. Because you are losing. And I am glad I went to sleep last night and let so many other people argue against you, while you stood on your ilsand of smugness all alone, as usual.

I've said this before, and it srill has not go into your head, but here is a repeat. "When everyone else has a problem with you, you are the problem. And the problem is, you do not have the spine or the sack to admit when you are wrong.

I'll do the less entertaining thing and get back to the OP. I think the next cartridge to bite the dust will be the 300BLK, even though I think it's a great round for the right application. I don't believe the 6.5 CM is going anywhere, and cartridges like the .270, 30-06, and .308 certainly aren't going anywhere. Those cartridges have withstood way too many "newcomers" over the years to get knocked out now.
I would actually love to switch our agency patrol rifles over to 300BLK from the current .223, but price and ammo availability would never allow it. For a short range patrol rifle application, I think the BLK would be an outstanding round.

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Uh-0!!!

I’m pretty sure you don’t see the CM or Grendel on the Federal list because their offerings for those calibers pretty much suck compared to Hornady.

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Walmart and academy would sell waaaaaay more reloading equipment if the average hunter, shooter, joe blow bought it.

The fact of the matter is that most hunters/shooters go and buy a box or two of factory ammo, kill stuff at 100 yards with their 3x9 duplex scope, and never think twice about doing it any other way.

The competitive community just isn’t THAT big. Big enough to support some specialized companies, but not big enough to base an entire industry on.

Brain shot FTW...

Speaking of reloading supplies at walmart, ya'll looking for some varget?

I think that may have been accurate 5 years ago, however I think the numbers are flipping. According to the article that I posted earlier in the thread, there were only 11.5 million people who hunted in 2016 (based on license sales) around 10% of those were from TX alone. Which means that 10% of the countries hunters are concentrated in one state and that state is becoming more and more "urban" in thinking every year. Paired with the rise of the "hunting lease" and the $$ that goes along with it, and the numbers will continue to decline. I don't have last years numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is down below 10 million now.
By contrast, the number of shooters is increasing. In the demographic of minorities and women, it is growing rapidly. Along with that it the rise of local competitions that focus on fun and sound shooting techniques. IDPA is a national one that is growing fast. Another is the various rimfire competitions that are popping up all over. While they may not be "competitions" like what we remember in the 80's and 90's, they are competitions. And it wouldn't surprise me if the numbers that are participating in them, even casually (just like there are casual hunters) are greater than hunters by 2020.

As for why Walmart doesn't carry reloading equipment, that isn't their demographic. Hell, most WalMarts don't even carry firearms anymore. Does that mean that firearms sales are down?

Nobodywill ever argue that avid competitors use more ammo and gear than the average hunter. What you're missing is that for every competitive shooter there are probably athousand hunters if not more. And we're suckers for marketing. Dudes will buy creedmoor rifles because they think they need one. Whether its a good cartridge or not, it is still a passing fad.

Look at the .280 Remington, and .280 AI especially. I got a buddy that only shoots a .280 AI, from what I have read it's a hair behind the 7mm Rem Mag. .280 AI, non magnum brass based on .30/06 vs the banded 7mm mag brass, has every reason to be at the top of the .284 food chain but it's not. Why is that?

I think it's wuite comparable to the creedmoor. It has good support but when people don't buy the ammo it will "fall from glory". The point blank range just isnt impressive and it is as simple as that. Inside 300 yards there are hundred year old cartridges that are popular despite plain that will knock the creedmoor's dick in the dirt.

^this

I know of several Walmart’s that do carry reloading equipment.

Idpa is stupid. Real men shoot 3 gun.

Competition shooting is not something that the masses are involved in. Going to the range and goofing off is.

I wonder how campfires were during the buffalo hunting days.

“I use a 45-70, cause that’s what the Army uses.”
“I like the 45-110 cause more powder is always good.”
I go with the 50-90. No replacement for displacement.”

Ah, some things never change.

These conversations make me realize how pointless it is to buy all these popular cartridges and rifles.

I am good and ready to keep an AR for defense, and just hunt with a single shot 12 guage and a bow, and call it good. Everything else is just excess.

I resemble that

20 pages! Well I like the Creed but already have several rifles chambered for cartridges the Creed can't do anything better than. I personally think it is at it's best replacing the 243.

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Where are those 6.5 creedore varmint loads? You know, the 50-60 grain, 4,000 fps varmint loads for ghogs and etc?

This goes back to that one for all thread. One cartridge for everything from long range to deer to varmint hunting in texas would be .243.