If you are trying to hurt my feelings, you're doing a great job! Mercy!

This thread is still great!!!

So, after reading all 4 pages of this insanely useless thread, I have come to several realiztions:

1. DH3 doesn't like "celebrities" commenting on his threads, most likely because they won't let him in the club.

2. Despite DH3 playing the victim card and showing his butt hurt, there was actually a lot of very good information in this thread. Of course he will ignore it all.

3. The level of DH3's butt hurt has increased exponentially...

4. I will never get the time spent reading this thread back, but at least I got to up my post count.


Carry on!

This thread went south in a hurry.

Before chiming in with recommendations and opinions, people should actually review the proposed use case.

The OP stated his longest shot would be 150 yards. For the OP's 30-06, that is a drop of less than 1" from his 100 yard zero. 99.999% of hunters won't dial for this shot. Any real or perceived shortcomings on the Crossfire's ability to consistently dial is immaterial in this specific use case.

For optical clarity, there are obviously better options. However, the glass on the Crossfire is not pure garbage either.

All of us have different approaches for zeroing a rifle and when we deem it suitable for hunting. You have your preferred approach and I have mine. For most common hunting distances it does not matter what approach you take. You start extending the ranges and that changes the equation.

I personally won't buy any more Vortex products, other than their Razor lineup, due to continued deterioration of their reliability. I still have three Diamondback scopes that are going strong and am in no rush to replace them. There is no point in pissing good money away.

If I were to listen to the advice just on this thread, you'd have me get rid of them despite all three continuing to work perfectly for their intended use and being absolutely reliable; horror of horrors this does include some regular dialing. If and when these scopes fail, I will toss them in the garbage and replace them with something else.

Did we just become best friends?

I don't know. Maybe if you had a shorter name... seems like a pretty big commitment on my part to have to type that out on a regular basis...

I do not know what he was thinking when he typed all that out either...

Lmao!!!

I completely understand. I do have a super long name. Just call me Suasage if you like that better.

J, I know someone who can fix that if you would like

17,296/7 years=2470 posts per year (and 2019 is still in it's third month)
2470/365 days=6.8/posts per day
24/6.8=3.5 hours per post.

Its a miracle that he has any time to slay hogs but finds time almost 7 times a day to display his ignorance.

Post count doesn't mean chit. Your stuck on that and it is a losing argument

Calm your anus, Mr. Smithers. He might be retired, and instead of lying about illegal deer, he chooses to rack up an impressive post count on our fine forum.

Tell us about this 16" spread again.

Bean. . . . . Burrito kinda thing.

“Hey how do I do this?”

Answer to question

“You elistest pos! What do you know about these things!?”

Jeeeezus!

One more just for post count by gawsh

F you bullfrog, you're celebrity know it all jack wagon

Love me some Alsups!!!

There are two people whose articles I read when it comes to optics - John Barsness and Ilya Koshkin. I believe they try their best to be objective. This is what Koshkin has to say about Vortex:

Vortex makes a broad range of products manufactured by different OEMs. And they are by far the largest company in the sportoptics world right now. Given how much product they ship, there are bound to be people who have issues with some of them and take it personally. They are usually the ones who yell much louder than satisfied customers.

I would not get the Crossfire or Strike Eagle. Diamondback is quite decent. PST Gen 2 has exceeded my expectations, so far (especially the 3-15x44). PST Gen 1 and HST I was mostly not that crazy about (a couple of models excepted). Razors of all flavors have been uniformly good.

ILya

I've read that from him too booradley. I did ask him to clarify though, what he means/what criteria does he use when he proclaims a riflescope to ge "good", or "decent", or exceeded expectations. Is he referring to optics, or what? He never ha answered. I find it interesting he makes those statements when in fact the guy Formid I referenced says there all a piece of crap except the Razor? I know he is talking about repeatability, consistency, return to zero, holding zero etc, not optics.

When it comes to "good" to describe an aiming device like a riflescope, I'd trust reliability personally.