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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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"Native American or American indian are two different things"
i'd like to hear your explanation on that because what i know, it's nothing more than a preference We all got here the same time, so we are all related to the same group of people that crossed the land bridge. This happen 15k-20k years ago. When the sea levels rose again around 13k years ago. We were cut off from are Asian ancestors. Native Americans populated all of North, Central, and South America. The American Indians are a group of Native Americans that settled the United States. Now, correct me if I'm wrong Choctaw. They were held together by reservations when the Europeans came over. As where other Native Americans from Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans were not. The reservations as bad as that deal was, in the long run helped them organize their Nations. They didn't just scatter to the wind, and lose heritage. Make sense? to me, that just says native american is just a wider generalization than american indian. i have no issues with either. thanks s.a
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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02/07/19 04:41 PM
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Good, I wasn't trying to stir the pot.
I'm 57% Native American, but probably 0% American Indian. Maybe I'm Mayan, because everytime i go down to the ruins in Mexico I get asked if I'm Mayan. At this point who knows?
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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02/07/19 04:55 PM
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Did y'all read the article that said these test were a scam and wildly inaccurate? They are lucky to be able to guess the right continent. LINKIts one of those thing, the more people that get in the more accurate they will be. Your results will change over time as more data comes in. Scam lol, I was really waiting for you to post that. I forgot figured BIL would be first tho. I cant believe you are this buttsore over Brady. Let me guess, you were dating Giselle and Brady stole her from you. Now scientific research is false....Staubach was not above average at best.  Buttsore over Brady? I actually really like him, just like to joke about him, which that thread was. So not sure how you get buttsore, and not sure how you link all this to to Brady. Care on... The fact that you believe Staubach is the greatest ever shows your buttyachyness...and your limited intelligence. I'll stop now. Peace!
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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02/07/19 05:02 PM
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The fact that you believe Staubach is the greatest ever shows your buttyachyness...and your limited intelligence. I'll stop now. I didn�t say that, ndhunter did, and I�m sure he was joking.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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If you study the histories of the Native American Indian Tribes and get into their "religion", you will find a lot of references to the great north. In the ones I have read about all of the tribes migrated south When? The last Ice Age? Did they originally migrate north from Europe? Or did they migrate north over the polar icecap from Russia? Or cross the Bering Sea and started as Eskimos, and then migrated on East across Canada and on to all of the Americas, both North and South??? Or were the Eskimos the sole start of the inhabitants of North and South America?
Where will the DNA state they are from? DNA info was created through science for man to answer questions, but will the answers be skewed to fit the "theories" of those working these programs? DNA is a science theory created by man with a lot of thought and theory, but I think it has holes in it.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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Asian friend claims the Ice Bridge around Alaska created a pathway of asian migration to North America. Which evolved into Native Americans. Just his theory. No more. No less.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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What's with the need that so many seem to have to be Native American? Is this a trendy, hipster thing or what??
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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What's with the need that so many seem to have to be Native American? Is this a trendy, hipster thing or what?? If you are running for president, you need it. Just as Pocahontas
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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What's with the need that so many seem to have to be Native American? Is this a trendy, hipster thing or what?? Free medical. That�s worth a million dollars.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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If you study the histories of the Native American Indian Tribes and get into their "religion", you will find a lot of references to the great north. In the ones I have read about all of the tribes migrated south When? The last Ice Age? Did they originally migrate north from Europe? Or did they migrate north over the polar icecap from Russia? Or cross the Bering Sea and started as Eskimos, and then migrated on East across Canada and on to all of the Americas, both North and South??? Or were the Eskimos the sole start of the inhabitants of North and South America?
Where will the DNA state they are from? DNA info was created through science for man to answer questions, but will the answers be skewed to fit the "theories" of those working these programs? DNA is a science theory created by man with a lot of thought and theory, but I think it has holes in it. I like your open mind dog catcher. Have you read about that ancient ancient civilization in Turkey? Believed to be 9,000 years old. Some think even older then that. G�bekli Tepe. Talk about rewriting history.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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Has anyone picked up Obama�s chicklets outside his residence to see where in Africa his was born yet?
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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If you study the histories of the Native American Indian Tribes and get into their "religion", you will find a lot of references to the great north. In the ones I have read about all of the tribes migrated south When? The last Ice Age? Did they originally migrate north from Europe? Or did they migrate north over the polar icecap from Russia? Or cross the Bering Sea and started as Eskimos, and then migrated on East across Canada and on to all of the Americas, both North and South??? Or were the Eskimos the sole start of the inhabitants of North and South America?
Where will the DNA state they are from? DNA info was created through science for man to answer questions, but will the answers be skewed to fit the "theories" of those working these programs? DNA is a science theory created by man with a lot of thought and theory, but I think it has holes in it. I like your open mind dog catcher. Have you read about that ancient ancient civilization in Turkey? Believed to be 9,000 years old. Some think even older then that. G�bekli Tepe. Talk about rewriting history. Writings about history are only as good as the author is truthful. I think a lot of the history of the Middle East is more of opinions by people that have the truth in a vision, but wrote with an agenda in mind.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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The fact that you believe Staubach is the greatest ever shows your buttyachyness...and your limited intelligence. I'll stop now. I didn�t say that, ndhunter did, and I�m sure he was joking. My apologies, I thought that was you. I was wrong.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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02/07/19 06:51 PM
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"Native American or American indian are two different things"
i'd like to hear your explanation on that because what i know, it's nothing more than a preference Hang on. Native American is different than American Indian????? I thought it was interchangeable like black and/or African American. I�m an Indian. I guess I don�t know what Native American is. Roll Tide, all nations and tribes have tribal membership cards. If I'm not mistaken, you can be on the roles by marriage or by blood and it's noted on the role. I have a great, great grandmother that was supposedly full blood Sioux. Been digging around online trying to find out more about her but she died early during childbirth, my Great great Grandfather remarried and there isn't much info on his 1st wife. Thought I had her located in the Cherokee nation and ordered a copy of her application to the Dawes roll from the Oklahoma Historical Society. Long story short, same name, about the same age, but different person. This gal was married to a Cherokee, her kids were considered Cherokee, but she was not accepted on the rolls as Cherokee because they weren't married by the deadline. Pretty cool info, if you have Cherokee in you order their stuff from OK, I got a whole packet of their written records, documentation etc. Not sure about the other tribes but you don't have to be blood indian to be an official Cherokee. There is a number of black and white folks that were / are official Cherokee. https://www.okhistory.org/research/...6&tribe=Cherokee&type=by%20Blood![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2019/02/full-16807-177389-sarah_melton.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2019/02/full-16807-177390-sarah_melton2.jpg)
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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02/07/19 08:07 PM
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What's with the need that so many seem to have to be Native American? Is this a trendy, hipster thing or what?? Free medical. That�s worth a million dollars. I don�t think it works like that.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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The reason they don't differentiate Northwestern Europe from England & Wales is due to the Norman Conquest. It seems that in many areas the Norman DNA is as high as 75%. To complicate things further many native Britons fled across the channel to what is now Brittany.
Thank you. Now you have me reading about the Norman Conquest and the Norman invasion of Ireland that came after. What a complicated place and time. I need to find a good book on it all. That's probably the neatest thing about DNA Genealogy and genealogy, in general, it gets you interested in the history and what was going on that might of made them want to move. One of my forefathers was the only settler in the Virginia colonies from Portugal prior to 1700. In researching the name, I found out that it wasn't a Portuguese name, but looking at the records of the Portuguese Inquisition it easily could have been a misspelling of one of several common names. That got me into researching the Portuguese Inquisition, lists of people brought before the inquisitors, were compiled and translated by Sephardic Jewish organizations. There was a period where the King tried to curtail the powers and limit the Inquisitor Courts. They responded by offering accommodation to the accused, that basically meant that if you sign over all your property to the inquisitors they would allow you to emigrate with no further charges. this usually meant to a Portuguese colony. It's pure speculation but I believe that was what happened to my forefather. The biggest mystery is how he ended up in Virginia.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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If you will read through this link. https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/You will get a better understanding of the small percentages that are being referenced.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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Good read, appreciate it. She wants a second opinion so we will be doing a 23 and me shortly. Amazingly she didn't have any hits on her Asian side as far as possible relatives. I think getting into a second database might help with that.
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Re: Surprising DNA results!
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My wife gave me one of the 23&Me kits for Christmas. I elected to NOT do the Health screening, nor the option to share with others as I don't want any unexpected knocks on the front door from college. Nothing really surprising with the English (Paternal) and French (Maternal) makeup. Happy to see my mother's family contribution is minimized as they are all bat**it crazy. It was surprising to see I have some Native American in my lineage, maybe even more than Elizabeth Warren.  I think it's a pretty interesting thing to do particularly as the other details they provide on the history and timing of your genetic class. Charlie
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