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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/02/19 02:58 PM
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Our lease has had two different tracking dog owners come out. Both said that they track more deer from 7mm mags and 300mags than any other caliber.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: SenkoSamurai]
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02/02/19 03:37 PM
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6.5 creedmore would be my nomination This!
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/02/19 03:39 PM
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50 bmg would be a poor choice in my opinion It would probably leave a better blood meat trail than a .223. fiffy I say any caliber I don't have 
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/02/19 03:46 PM
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.44-40, 25-35, .243, 30 carbine, .351 Winchester, etc
The reason they track more deer with 7mm’s and .300’s is those people can’t shoot. Hand them a .270 and they would still wound deer.
7mm mags and .300 mags are great all purpose rounds IF you can handle the recoil
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: RattlesnakeDan]
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02/02/19 03:52 PM
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full disclosure statement: my preferred doe gun is a 9 twist, bolt action .223. Worst- have to agree with DQkid on the 22 Hornet, followed closely by .223. IMO, its not the caliber as much as it is the shooter. Many dont shoot in the off season. Many do not have self control to wait for the best presentation. I've killed deer with 223, just put one in the neck or the snot locker. I killed several axis with a 45 colt rifle loaded with wheel weights. 357 magnum too. I know a guy that has taken the knees out of a couple bucks using a 270. He doesn't shoot unless he is hunting.
Papalote I agree with this and for this reason I say the magnums that are exclusively rifle calibers. Waste a lot of good meat and poor shot placement from never shooting the gun that hurts them. Gotta disagree here. It's not the fault of the caliber if a hunter is too limp wristed to shoot a belted magnum well.... 4. If there were black panthers in Texas, how many deer a year would they eat and would you shoot one. Everyone knows the woods are crawling with them. There have been reported sightings for years. Are they good to eat and how do you cook it?
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: SenkoSamurai]
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02/02/19 04:00 PM
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6.5 creedmore would be my nomination Why? Because it’s become wildly popular? Every deer I’ve shot with mine has fallen right over without taking a step. You probably also think sitting and watching a corn feeder is really hunting.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/02/19 04:01 PM
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6.5 creedmore would be my nomination Why? Because it’s become wildly popular? Every deer I’ve shot with mine has fallen right over without taking a step. You probably also think sitting and watching a corn feeder is really hunting. The vast majority of the wounded and lost deer I dealt with when I was guiding were shot at by big city good ol' boys with a 300 win mag that they never shot enough, except to make up for a lack of ability...cuz it hurt. Just sayin'. I agree with this. City boys that wanna be country and a hunter. They make us all look bad
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: sbushee]
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02/02/19 04:06 PM
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6.5 creedmore would be my nomination Why? Because it’s become wildly popular? Every deer I’ve shot with mine has fallen right over without taking a step. You probably also think sitting and watching a corn feeder is really hunting. The vast majority of the wounded and lost deer I dealt with when I was guiding were shot at by big city good ol' boys with a 300 win mag that they never shot enough, except to make up for a lack of ability...cuz it hurt. Just sayin'. I agree with this. City boys that wanna be country and a hunter. They make us all look bad Some city boys like to hunt.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/02/19 04:07 PM
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I was going to nominate the .300 Weatherby. 
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/02/19 04:28 PM
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Deer season is over and I'm bored. Time for a good ole caliber debate. What the best calibers are for deer hunting has been beat to death. What do y'all think are the worst? My nomination would be the .223. What do you think?  Gee, you must be bored, but Palehorse, this post is just plain mean spirited.... 
"I haven't shot a 1,000 deer, but I've sat around a 1,000 Texas camp fires. I'm a happy man." - pertnear
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/02/19 05:30 PM
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Not going to name one or another, but any cartridge the hunter does not shoot well would is a poor choice. best answer 
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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Deer season is over and I'm bored. Time for a good ole caliber debate. What the best calibers are for deer hunting has been beat to death. What do y'all think are the worst? My nomination would be the .223. What do you think?  Gee, you must be bored, but Palehorse, this post is just plain mean spirited....  Yea, I guess I can be a mean drunk.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/03/19 07:38 PM
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Any caliber that Tikka chambers for... 
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 11:44 AM
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 .................... You must really be bored !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/04/19 12:57 PM
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Nobody mentioned bullet construction. Oh yeah, I forgot match grade ammo what the cool guys kill deer with!!!
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 01:43 PM
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I remember our old lease owner hunted with a 22 hornet. Those deer looked like they got stung by a bee and died of an allergic reaction. It killed em as long as you put it in the right spot though.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 02:20 PM
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.22-250 or .22 Hornet often used by youth 22-250 is bad sum b! That thing will put the smack down on a deer.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
[Re: Palehorse]
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02/04/19 02:23 PM
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Caliber don't make much difference, The main difference here is between hunters and shooters. For deer, I'm always in hunting mode.
For some clarity here - if I'm hunting hogs - looking to harvest for the meat, then I'm careful and focused on my shot placement. If I'm shooting hogs or coyotes, then I don't care where they're hit, I'm more focused on just hitting them. Unfortunately, some deer hunters are just shooters. Maybe their eyes are focused on the head gear instead of the crosshair.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 02:32 PM
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The vast majority of the wounded and lost deer I dealt with when I was guiding were shot at by big city good ol' boys with a 300 win mag that they never shot enough, except to make up for a lack of ability...cuz it hurt. Just sayin'. IMO, it boils down to margin for error. The big bore rifles might have the largest margin for error in terms of knockdown power, but they can also greatly decrease the margin for error in the shooter. And an unreliable shooter is far more likely to be the reason for an unrecovered deer than a reliable shooter with a smaller caliber rifle. I would not suggest anything smaller than a .243 in terms of margin for error with the rifle. Beyond that, it's up to the shooter to determine what bullet with a greater diameter than .243 inches they can shoot 10 out of 10 times without wounding an animal.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 06:45 PM
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.22-250 or .22 Hornet often used by youth 22-250 is bad sum b! That thing will put the smack down on a deer. Yep. 3 of the 5 deer I killed this year hit the dirt with a 22-250, love that round. 
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 07:21 PM
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It is not the caliber or bullet. It is usually the person that pulls the trigger that blames both because of a bad shot.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 07:23 PM
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.22-250 or .22 Hornet often used by youth 22-250 is bad sum b! That thing will put the smack down on a deer. Yep. 3 of the 5 deer I killed this year hit the dirt with a 22-250, love that round.  I’ve killed a lot of deer with a .22-250. While it’s adaquate under a lot of circumstances, it’s not ideal.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 07:34 PM
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I would put the Ubermagnums way above .22 centerfires as the worst deer cartridges.
Three doe in three years with three .223 rounds, and my hunting buddy has shot three doe in three years with three .223 rounds. 5 of them dropped at the shot, one went about 30 yards.
The three ways to be successful with .22 centerfires on deer:
Shot Placement Shot Placement Shot Placement
A close 4th is using the right bullet. A good rule of thumb is 60 grains or heavier, soft points or controlled expansion (Partition, Bonded, etc) soft points.
I have seen more .22-250s and .220 Swifts used for deer hunting than varmint hunting. See above four caveats.
Just my .02, LeonCarr
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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I went to a MLD ranch this past weekend to shoot doe's, I haven't deer hunted in 15 years (been on Quail only leases), decided to break out my old trusty Remington model 7 .223. I fired four times, killed two doe and two hogs. Another guy there shot a doe with his 30-06 and she got up and ran off. Never found her.
Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: Worst calibers for deer hunting
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02/04/19 10:05 PM
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.22-250 or .22 Hornet often used by youth 22-250 is bad sum b! That thing will put the smack down on a deer. Yep. 3 of the 5 deer I killed this year hit the dirt with a 22-250, love that round.  So the other 2 ran off? 
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