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10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 08:50 PM
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Which would you rather hunt with? Why? and what make and model of firearm and ammo?
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 08:56 PM
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Have a Ruger Super Blackhawk stretch frame in 357 Max but often hunt with it carrying 357 Mags and a Ruger Security 6 that also gets used on occasion. Those and the Marlin 1894 357mag.
I like wheel guns for hunting and will stick with them.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 09:09 PM
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357 in a 14” contender. Or a 92 Winchester/94 marlin. I’d probably go with a 158 XTP handload or a 180 grain FPGC lead.
Why? More power is always better.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!!
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:06 PM
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Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!! I have a ruger sr1911 in 10 mm with the 5in barrel. I'm really tempted to get close enough to a pig or deer to see what it could do. Ive heard good things about Underwood ammo in that regard, but no firsthand experience.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:17 PM
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Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!! I have a ruger sr1911 in 10 mm with the 5in barrel. I'm really tempted to get close enough to a pig or deer to see what it could do. Ive heard good things about Underwood ammo in that regard, but no firsthand experience. I do not know about Underwood ammo but a lot of 10mm ammo is watered down so it is not much more than 40S&W ammo. check with Chad about some full throttle ammo
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:26 PM
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I don't load much handgun ammo, but 10mm is one of the handgun rounds I do load for. I have done a lot of range testing with the various bullets I offer. Some of the 10mm ammo mfg's, like Underwood and Double Tap, run their ammo too hot which cause lots of problems in unmodified factory pistols.
Here's what I wrote on my site:
This ammunition is designed for best accuracy and functioning in 10mm pistols. There are companies that will load hot 10mm +P ammo, but it will cause cycling problems and accuracy issues for stock pistols and Glocks. When I have pushed the speeds up beyond the normal operating 10mm pressures, accuracy was very poor and failure to chamber and eject problems began. When you load to standard max 10mm pressures (non +P pressures), the 10mm shoots very well and is very reliable. That is where I load this ammunition. It is a standard max full power 10mm Auto load, and works great in all 10mm pistols. It is NOT 10mm Auto loaded to 40 S&W speeds.
Why 10mm ammo? I am a huge 10mm Auto fan, and I was upset at the lack of quality 10mm ammo on the market. 10mm ammo is either watered down 40 cal ammo, or 10mm +P+ ammo that doesn’t function or shoot well in a Glock. I load primarily precision rifle ammo, but I loaded a lot of 10mm ammo at the request of customers and myself. So, this 10mm ammo is the best true full power 10mm Auto ammunition I can make! I hope you think so also!
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:45 PM
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The 10mm hits like an atomic bomb
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:54 PM
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mreed, it took me a second, thanks for the laugh
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:55 PM
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What does a .357 mag do compared to the 10mm?
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:57 PM
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Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!! I have a ruger sr1911 in 10 mm with the 5in barrel. I'm really tempted to get close enough to a pig or deer to see what it could do. Ive heard good things about Underwood ammo in that regard, but no firsthand experience. I killed an axis at 40ish yards with a Para 16-40 loaded with a 180 lead TC. I have book loads that push a 180 XTP at 1225 out of a 5” barrel. Your 10mm should have no problem.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:58 PM
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Kinda interesting to see how similar the.357Sig, 40S&W, and .45ACP preformed....
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 10:58 PM
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In my opinion, it really comes down to whether you like revolvers or autos. In a Contender I'd go with .357 for the rim.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 11:00 PM
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Personally, I would choose .357 Mag. Why? Because I own two Ruger wheel guns in 357, a Ruger 77/357, a rossi model 92 in 357, and a handi rifle in 357. I don't own any 10mm. For hunting, I load with 300MP, trying to wring every last ounce of velocity (that is still accurate) out of it. Hornady 158 gr XTP/FP. It's a great combo that anchors just about everything I've shot right where it was standing.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/15/19 11:35 PM
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10mm because I like 1911 triggers more than wheel guns especially for hunting. I have a Kimber in 10mm that shoots lights out.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 12:09 AM
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The Ruger GP-100 in 10 mm
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 12:27 AM
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On the 10mm front. What’s interesting is I haven’t heard anything on the new xd. They are out there but haven’t seen too many reviews. I am interested to how the 4.5 inch barrel does
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 12:51 AM
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Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!! I have a ruger sr1911 in 10 mm with the 5in barrel. I'm really tempted to get close enough to a pig or deer to see what it could do. Ive heard good things about Underwood ammo in that regard, but no firsthand experience. I killed an axis at 40ish yards with a Para 16-40 loaded with a 180 lead TC. I have book loads that push a 180 XTP at 1225 out of a 5” barrel. Your 10mm should have no problem. Both are pretty similar, honestly. If you compare bullet for bullet and similar barrel length, the 10mm has a slight advantage in power. You can puch a 155 grain in a 10mm at 1350 fps, and a 158 grain in a 357 Mag about 1300-1350 fps in similar barrel lengths. If you step up to the 200 grain bullets in the 10mm, you can push them 1200 fps. The 357 won't push it that fast with as heavy a bullet. I wouldn't feel under gunned with either. But I love my 10mm pistols and shoot them a lot. I'd lean to the 10mm for the heavier 180 and 200 grain loads. My Glock G40 in 10mm is a flat out hammer!! I have a ruger sr1911 in 10 mm with the 5in barrel. I'm really tempted to get close enough to a pig or deer to see what it could do. Ive heard good things about Underwood ammo in that regard, but no firsthand experience. I killed an axis at 40ish yards with a Para 16-40 loaded with a 180 lead TC. I have book loads that push a 180 XTP at 1225 out of a 5” barrel. Your 10mm should have no problem. That is bad***, thank you for the confidence boost, not a ton of videos on YouTube, just a few. And cleric, I remember seeing a thread awhile back in it and was interested myself. Haven’t heard anything lately
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 01:06 AM
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.44 magnum is always the correct answer. However, if you want the wrong answer, there are 10mm loads that will do what .357 does if you can get your hands on them. So, pick whichever you like. It still won't be a .44.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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Well.... yep
Other than a Ruger BH is quite a bit smaller than a SBH. And if you get a BH in 45, you can get reeeeeeally close to 44 performance in a much lighter handgun.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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I really hope the 10mm makes a comeback so we get it on more platforms
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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I'm a fan of the 357. I don't think it will do anything a 10 mm won't do and neither one is a 44. I've shot several whitetail doe with full house loads of H 110 & 158 XTP's out of a Blackhawk with no issues. On the range I shoot lot's of 38 wadcutters with either unique or universal out of the same gun. The 357 is plenty capable as a hunting cartridge but in all honesty the biggest reason I like it is it's fun to load for and shoot.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 02:40 PM
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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01/16/19 03:04 PM
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I carry my G20 in 10mm as my main side arm when at the deer lease. When I got the G40 long slide in 10mm, I carried that for a while. I shot several rabbits with it, and one at around 30 yards which no one thought I would hit it. I surprised myself on that one also. The G40 is a great 10mm pistol. It has a long barrel for added speed and longer sight radius for target shooting. I love that pistol.
The second handgun I ever bought (after my 38 Special) was a 357 mag revolver. I loved shooting that gun also. I like a good revolver, no doubt, but I prefer the semi auto firearm. If you are a wheel gun fan, then it's hard to not like a 357 Mag. Like I said, either caliber would be fine for hunting or self defense. It's just one caliber is geared more for revolvers and the other semi auto.
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Re: 10mm vs. .357mag
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.357 mag... because i don't have a 10mm yet...
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