The only thing that has changed on our ranch is increased bushels per acre. Amount of farmed ground has not, growing season has not. That increase productivity is harvest ability and seed variety. With that said higher production yields leaves more on the ground even though collection efficiency goes up still law of percentages.

As far as CRP or rangeland management it has essentially stayed the same out side a few control burns and accidental lighting strike burns. Recently regulations on CRP management did change and now there is a hay/graze rotation requirement.

Old fence rows are still there as the old homesteads.

Biggest change I have personally seen is increased aerial predators by a huge swing.

And how old are you again? Read my time frame again...30 yrs or more ago. Do you use Round-up Ready corn? Things have changed you just have not seen them.

If you only plant 4 circles per section the amount of plowed ground remains the same 126acres x4.... if the rest is in native/CRP that 136 acres stays unplanted,....

Takes a lot of rain to sink corn, especially in an area that only averages 18 inches of rain and 30” of snow...

I was tearing tractors up 30 years ago. 50 years ago Not so much.

Who is the rock head, my herbicide useage is down 10 fold since roundy up.... with more precise applications, which would bood in quail favor...

Try again.

How much rain does it take to sprout corn or ruin it?

And how can seeds germinate after you have sterilized the field for years? There are none, hence less herbicide? What do quail eat more of again? Again you backed up my answer with your reply. CRP plantings and grass heights vary across every state that does them from what I have seen..some are short grass and some or taller grasses. Most were to thick IMO where I hunted for deer. They needed to be burned off.

Who’s the German now. My harvest is Oct. by then ground temp is below optimal. I will have pasture maggots, deer and pheasants still eating it in Feb

Who is German now? Is that grain on the surface where the sun and rain can hit it? If there is that much grain on the ground you need a new combine...

Lol, if it was dead soil I wouldn’t need round up. Application process is more pointed and efficient that’s all. Again CRP is now rotationally grazed or Hayed so I should expect to see a bumper crop...... of quail

You are trying to compare an area that soil erroision conscious for past 50 years and has moved away from the edge to edge Stx dry land practices.

If anything habitat in our area has gotten better with more and more soil conservation consciousness.

That’s it we are going pheasant hunting in Jan, I look forward to your quail habitat analysis. I have a doe pasture maggot tag too.


FYI stripper head efficiency is a smaller percentage of increased harvest yield compared to selective seed varieties. Three percent increase is huge, compared to a seed variety I can double row and break 300 bushels an acre...

You should really have become an attorney...deflection at it's best. I waiting for the answer to my first question above.

That part about sterilizing the soil was just to see if you actually are reading what I am posting or just skimming. If there are no weeds to make seeds then you have "sterilized" the fields from weeds...hence needing less treated acres. IIRC the area in western Kansas I hunted only got 17" annual rainfall with about a 15" annual snow. They do not stock raised nearly as many raised quail like they do pheasants for hunting up there in Kansas from what I saw.

Now do you think the ease of an avian predator being able to catch a released bird is effecting the amount of pressure the avian predators are now putting on native populations?
Just fun Thursday afternoon fodder to keep your German perked up.

Eh tu brute!!! I can’t believe you would hit that low


Come on I could never be a shake down artist.

Round 2


BOBOtheClown stxranchman

He knows I’m right. He just has two huge soft spots in his heart. Unfortunately he just can’t look past those to loves. Those two loves are for Hawks and spikes.

I will let you think you won.....even though we both know I am right.

I’m getting you one for Christmas.

I am getting you one of these..... Quail

Lol, the old man’s still got it. Pretty funny

Glad that's settled, so all things equal, the farmer using ge/gm seed and pouring Monsanto everywhere is what's caused it

https://phys.org/news/2016-09-largest-ever-reveals-environmental-impact-genetically.html

I agree, those a hole post 2008 farmers should be using native seeds and organic molasses based pesticides.

It's a sticky issue. Maximum yield Ag is more profitable. Money motivates landowners to do what is profitable. From an economic standpoint it makes the most sense. The trade off is sometimes niche species can't adapt and are pushed out. The taxpayer does not want to foot the bill to subsidize more wildlife friendly but less profitable practices.
As for the argument of being more birds of prey:
Raptor populations were decimated by DDT. They continue to rebound and recolonize areas they previously inhabited, but populations are not what they once were. Populations of some species are still drastically lower than prior to DDT. In that same period of abundant raptors, the bobwhite flourished across most of the south and pointing dogs in farmers yards and on their porches was common. Most of the quail are gone now. Shortly after the quail started to disappear, a lot of the bird dogs did too.