I hear you man for sure. The warranty to me is the only reason I would look at another Titan when mine old one runs it's course. I really don't tow anything of size so the xtra HP and torque don't mean as much to me as it would to some. This is my 4th Nissan product and the bottom line, they just last.

My thoughts exactly! That said, I gave a buddy of mine some serious grief when I found out he bought a Raptor. His comments from this weekend follow...well I don’t like half tons or Fords either, but the dual turbos on that six banger are impressive. You will love the ride this thing has, and YES we are taking it to Sonora on the mule deer hunt in January, dragging a Twelve foot enclosed trailer, so I can get all the deer mounts home. It tows that trailer like it’s not even there. I asked him why buy a new trailer, you already got scads of trucks /Trailers? He said, you don’t understand, The wheel travel and shocks on this truck makes those Mexico pothole roads seem like riding on the Autobahn...dude, when you get out here to pronghorn camp,next week, I am gonna show you...it’s like riding on air across the rocks...

That said, a Ford, really?! Needless to say, I am a fan of gas Z-71, and dodge diesel stuff. I will probably post a story, with plenty of pics, when I get back from pronghorn camp, as there are usually many book goats shot, every year. That said I may remember to update this post, if not, I will definitely include some impressions about the raptor. I hope it is as good as he says, if I am gonna have to ride/drive in it from Hobbs to Sonora and back...those Mexican roads are terrible, and my back hates them...

I have never seen a good deal on a lifted truck from a dealer. They are always over priced and most of the time they use cheap lifts like spacer blocks and such. I think they are trying to sell to the people that just want the look. If you want something that is truly off road capable then do it yourself or find a reputable shop. Lifts will not void warranty unless the lift directly caused the part to fail. Talk about over priced that defines the Raptor.

before I bought my truck I was gonna buy a 1/2 ton lifted from the dealer. They use the same shop across the road from the dealership that has done 3 lifts for me.


The prices they wanted to charge me were as follows:

$3500 for a $1500 lift

$1200 for $600 worth of Line-X

$2500 for a $1600 replacement bumper



The markup on aftermarket parts is crazy high at the dealership. I pointed this out to them, that I know prices and know the shop and they just told me, yeah, well that's what we charge.


So I bought a truck at a different dealership