2nd amendment doesn't give us the right to own battle field weapons, supreme court has made that ruling. Congress has extended that for semi automatic weapons but congress can revere it. NRA is not America but a lobby group for gun manufactures.

Define �battlefield weapons�. Don�t forget to include 1911�s, and every other bolt action rifle the military has ever used.

Libtard?

You couldn�t be more wrong. That is exactly what the 2A gives us the right to own.

Although it does not specify the intent is to allow the people to meet an overreaching and tyrannical government with like force. Here have been some reasonableness in the types of weapons but out side of nuclear and some bombs, almost anything is allowed. That is the way it was supposed to be.

Just like the reasonableness for the 1A. Can�t go yelling fire or inciting riot with the intent to harm.

You are very wrong.

There�s nothing that can be done. In a free society some innocent people are going to die. Accept it and move on.

At the time of the writing of the 2nd amendment, "battlefield rifles" were the same muskets that they used to hunt with. Using your logic, they wrote the 2nd amendment to ban pretty much all the rifles that people owned at the time. Battlefield weapons have always trickled over into civilian use. Bolt actions were once battlefield rifles. Lever actions were once battlefield rifles. Single shot rifles were once battlefield rifles. And one day, the AR-15/m-4 rifle will be replaced by something that is more technologically advanced, and at that time, an AR-15 will no longer be a battlefield. At that point, will it be OK to own one?

The 2nd amendment gives citizens the individual liberty to defend themselves, their property, and neighbors from any and all that would infringe on their sacred property rights.....to include the government! Has nothing to do with hunting....that is a liburd deflection used to undermine and erode your constitutional rights.....

Yet they claim you have a right to healthcare, food, housing, and now a living wage....all at the expense of the producers.....the reason they want your guns is so they can confiscate your property and redistribute it to their voting block. The left has to have a victim-based underclass in order to exist. When the citizenry doesn't provide a large enough group to support their demands for power they import them...legally (muzzies from the middle east) and illegally (whatever that can get across the border).

The left has demonstrated over and over that you have no rights to your one wealth/property and label you selfish (plus a long list of -ists and -phobics) while championing the "rights" to your property for those here illegally or "underprivileged" like the middle eastern imports....

Oh, and don't forget that the only reason you have any property/wealth in the first place is your white privilege....

It wasn't about the failings of the FBI....
It wasn't about the failings of the sheriffs office...
It wasn't about the failings of the public school system...

It's the fault of the NRA...and the NRA code is you and me.....law abiding citizens!

They make the discussion about the guns because they want to take them away from you so that they can control you!

Jes my

On the money Jes.

Yes indeed. Go back to the fishing forum.

Minimum age of 21 to purchase any firearm. Treat AR-type firearms just like noise suppressors. Anyone of legal age can own one after submitting the necessary paperwork and paying a fee.

1. What about under 21 folks who have military or LE service (there are circumstances in which a peace officer can be under 21).
2. I agree AR�s should be treated like suppressors, provided neither requires any stamp, extra paperwork, or extra fees.

Like I said in an earlier post, neither of these things will fix a stinking thing and they take attention/resources away from the real problems. You�re trying to fix things that aren�t broke.

To fix the problem...

Fix the family, the basic unit of society!

Husbands and wives stay together and raise your children. Teach them to work, to pray and read the scriptures, to be respectful, to go outside, and that they have a responsibility to become a valuable member of society. Above all, parents lead by example! We have got to get back to the Christian values this country was built on if we expect change. All of the porno, and gay marriage, and drug and alcohol abuse, and just general disrespect for values in general have taken us to an ugly place in this country.

Killings have nothing to do with guns, they are just the tool these very messed up people are using to commit these acts of terrorism! No gun law will fix or defend against a society that has no values!

Too late for any mass interest in that approach. But it could happen soon after an economic collapse or change in government, whichever comes first. Catastrophic events are another possibility.

Interesting how non AR owners come up with these dumb ideas. Just like suppressors that protect your hearing and others around you, let's make it expensive and time consuming before you can protect your hearing. And your the one that belly aches over bow hunters getting special treatment, yet you suggest the same type of regulation for AR owners. Very hypocritical!

Agree.....

Idiots abound....

The only item I can somehow get my head around, and not that it can 100% solve everything, is the legal age being 21. Yes, I get that 18 year olds can be in the service, but I will add that those individuals serving will have had psychological screening, proper training, and under supervision.

All of the rest are just bandaids that don't cure much of anything - except, hardened schools - it is immediate, effective, and will intimidate the cowards.

Only one shooter out of all of them was under 21 if I am not mistaken. Guns are not the reason for the shootings! Are we going to regulate Home Depot Rental trucks? How about airplanes? How about fertilizer? How about pressure cookers? They were all tools used to carry out terror. The regulate guns argument is silly but the media and libs love it! How about we get to the root of the problem and promote faith and family and values!

My daughter is a teacher and a teacher who can shoot! I also agree with "hardening the schools" now!

I say no regulation, put a gun in everybody's hand that is 18 and older except for convicted felons and such... Make it to where you'd be nuts to try and do something unless you are willing to die for it which you most likely will sooner than planned.

Agreed wholeheartedly Sir.