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I hate to leave in the heat of the battle. But, the turkeys are calling... this is a Hunting site after all.

Anyway, the round you specified doesn't even have a bullet. It is a safety slug made up of rat shot, it wouldn't penetrate a leather jacket. DISQUALIFIED

Ok, now I've really got to go. Pick it up from here Kelly.

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Thank you Gogburn. Im about to ruin Helos victory dance.

LMAO!!! It is ratshot! its a Glaser safety slug, its ratshot in a shell. LOL Literally, #12 shot for the Glaser Blues or #6 shot for the Glaser Silvers. It is bad [censored] ammo but wont penetrate much, certainly no car window or a door.

I also question the legitimacy of the facts presented regarding the ballistics of said ammo. Your site...NOT a Glaser site, but a gun rag, well known to be "paid off" in exchange for overinflated "facts" and this perticular one contains inaccurate and over inflated numbers for this round. Here is the real ballistics as quoted by the actual ammunition maunfacturer:

http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm

Please refer to the appropriate calibers and energies purported by the actual manufacturer per the original challenge.

To put the balistics side by side they look like this:

.40 - 115 gr Corbon Glaser Safety - 501 ftlbs

.45 - 145 gr Corbon Glaser Safety - 587 ftlbs

I still win. LOL Next!

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I will look some more, got helicopters coming in right now. I have some glazers, I didn't know that is what they were in that post. They are great for people and animals though. I had never seen that site before, it was just one of the first that came up on my search.

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Where did you find that? I want to see what they list the .40 at.

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http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=180454

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I added a link. Here it is again:

http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm

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Now .....compare the 10mm!

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That isn't the manufacturer of Cor-bon....

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Now .....compare the 10mm!

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Amen Brother

800 ft/lbs thanks for coming.

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Hey hey hey now. Stick to the hijacked thread topic.

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No comparison, the 10 is bad arse but over penetrates.

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I added a link. Here it is again:

http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm

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That isn't the manufacturer of Cor-bon....

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LOL. Yes it is. Go to the customer service tab and call them. Dakota Ammo is the parent company to Cor-bon/Glaser, LLC.

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Im not sure about the pressures with this round but the .45 moves at 1350 fps compared to about 1000 fps for most other rounds but the projectile is alot lighter also (145 gr vs 230 gr) so maybe its a similar load and the weight difference makes it that much faster without increasing pressures. And you are dealing with a "frangible" or "prefragmented" round vs a copper jacketed hollow point. Theres alot of variables here. Its an interesting question though.

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... no 9mm or .40 S&W in the world makes as big a whole as 16 rounds of 230gr ashtrays all going into one BIG hole.

I like BIG holes....

Earl

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Yep, Id rather go with a big hole from the start too.

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Ok guy and gals, put all the "ballistics" stuff aside for a minute. I have worked a whole lot of shootings and here is some real world advise. Pick a gun that "point shoots" the best for you. Studies show that most gun fights take place within 3 to 7 yards and just like most of you, I don't need sights at that range. Like a camera, you just point and shoot. Then get some really good "people stopping" ammo and once you do all that....PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!! Just $.02 from your friendly local LEO.

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