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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:10 AM
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Like I said if anyone is in the Austin area and wants to see these in person, or any X-Sight II or a ThoR HD 4.5x 384 or a 2.5x 640 let me know.. I will be more than happy to take you out to the range and test them out.
Same offer will go when the 4K Pro gets here. Do we have to see you to take advantage of that offer?
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:25 AM
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Like I said if anyone is in the Austin area and wants to see these in person, or any X-Sight II or a ThoR HD 4.5x 384 or a 2.5x 640 let me know.. I will be more than happy to take you out to the range and test them out.
Same offer will go when the 4K Pro gets here. Do we have to see you to take advantage of that offer? 265 miles and 4 hours away.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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When did pulsar fix their audio issue? Dude, you have some big f'in stones to come on here with that comment. Your POS scope couldn't even keep the crosshairs in the same place or stay working when you shot it! Seriously. As long as it took Pulsar to get audio worked out, at least my projectiles have always hit where I'm aiming. I had the original X-Sight and remember when ATN released a firmware update that caused POI to shift when zooming. Unreal. Most all the heartburn over the X-Sight took place before I bought any kind of night vision, so I don't really know...but it seems like ATN released update after update (and they did not work) and broke promise after promise, while folks were steaming mad about money they had tied up in optics that in many cases were useless. How many of those updates were crap? In more recent times, Pulsar released their new line with a promise to release software that would bring all the options alive. Yes, they took a little while. What they did not do is release crap software repeatedly, the first update worked as promised. And as far as I know, the Pulsar/Sightmark guys didn't disappear during that wait time. Oh---and I don't recall ever seeing a new user show up with less than 10 posts and every one of them promoting Pulsar. In my book, one company is operating above board with transparency and showing some integrity. I'll so no more about the other company.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:31 AM
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Do we have to see you to take advantage of that offer? 265 miles and 4 hours away. Well it is the best I can offer.. I wont send my personal unit off somewhere to someone I do not know. But anyone that is close to Austin or that is passing through the offer stands." Or maybe when I go to NRA in Dallas I will bring them with me as well.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:34 AM
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Yup. They had their chance. As far as I'm concerned they can be banned from THF. Not because they didn't let me review one, but because they didn't let any outsider from their circle, that is a THF member, review one. That shows me they just want to pimp it, but don't really believe in it enough to allow a third party reviewer to tell it like it is, good or bad. Don't forget all the stupid spam posts from ATN. You know, the ones where a real THF member asks a question about a scope for shooting long range, and some idiot with zero posts says "I just recently bought my husband the ATN X-Sight for this exact purpose, and he loves it. He can even shoot through fog!".......their whole company is a scam. Those post would crack me up. You could look at all their post and all were about how great atn was.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:36 AM
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[quote=garbs]
Most all the heartburn over the X-Sight took place before I bought any kind of night vision, so I don't really know...but it seems like ATN released update after update (and they did not work) and broke promise after promise, while folks were steaming mad about money they had tied up in optics that in many cases were useless. How many of those updates were crap?
In more recent times, Pulsar released their new line with a promise to release software that would bring all the options alive. Yes, they took a little while. What they did not do is release crap software repeatedly, the first update worked as promised. And as far as I know, the Pulsar/Sightmark guys didn't disappear during that wait time. Oh---and I don't recall ever seeing a new user show up with less than 10 posts and every one of them promoting Pulsar.
In my book, one company is operating above board with transparency and showing some integrity. I'll so no more about the other company. James Munn CEO of ATN admitted that they have made mistakes... And they are determined not to repeat the mistakes of the past... All I know is that first look at the new line was WAY better than the first look of the X-Sight II. If they continue their trend of improvement this scope is going to be pretty awesome. But one will not know until you actually try it.. Like I said, when in Austin, shoot me a PM and I will pu ton in your hands for the day.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:45 AM
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Why does the damn thing still blink in night vision mode??? That was supposed to be fixed two Xsights ago! It’s not just annoying but also distracting to making a precise launch of a projectile. https://www.atncorp.com/x-sight4k-pro-day-night-rifle-scope-5-20x
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:46 AM
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Like I said if anyone is in the Austin area and wants to see these in person, or any X-Sight II or a ThoR HD 4.5x 384 or a 2.5x 640 let me know.. I will be more than happy to take you out to the range and test them out.
Same offer will go when the 4K Pro gets here. Let me know when you have the 4k pro
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:48 AM
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Like I said if anyone is in the Austin area and wants to see these in person, or any X-Sight II or a ThoR HD 4.5x 384 or a 2.5x 640 let me know.. I will be more than happy to take you out to the range and test them out.
Same offer will go when the 4K Pro gets here. Let me know when you have the 4k pro
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:50 AM
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Do we have to see you to take advantage of that offer? 265 miles and 4 hours away. Well it is the best I can offer.. I wont send my personal unit off somewhere to someone I do not know. But anyone that is close to Austin or that is passing through the offer stands." Or maybe when I go to NRA in Dallas I will bring them with me as well. Lol! I've had personal dealings, at my range, with hundreds of THF members that will vouch for me. You? Excuses are like [censored] holes.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:52 AM
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Why does the damn thing still blink in night vision mode???
That was supposed to be fixed two Xsights ago!
It’s not just annoying but also distracting to making a precise launch of a projectile. Promotional video... made before actual hunting footage is released of the 4k.. Becuase it was recorded int he same HD of the X-Sight II that video was used for promotional purposes.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:54 AM
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Do we have to see you to take advantage of that offer? 265 miles and 4 hours away. Well it is the best I can offer.. I wont send my personal unit off somewhere to someone I do not know. But anyone that is close to Austin or that is passing through the offer stands." Or maybe when I go to NRA in Dallas I will bring them with me as well. Lol! I've had personal dealings, at my range, with hundreds of THF members that will vouch for me. You? Excuses are like [censored] holes. Its not that I don't trust you... Its that I am a little selfish in that I do not want to be without my scope for that long haha Tell you what when I get a second one I will send it to you for a week.. I don't mind putting it up against skeptic testing.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:54 AM
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Why does the damn thing still blink in night vision mode???
That was supposed to be fixed two Xsights ago!
It’s not just annoying but also distracting to making a precise launch of a projectile. On this certain instance that is only seen in the playback and not on the scope itself while viewing through it. This is why they have not released it yet as the firmware is not ready for the new additions.. They want it to be perfect before release.. This is also why, this time, certain people will get an advanced version for actual field testing before a mass release. certain people meaning those cherry picked by ATN to write a review they approve of
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 02:58 AM
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[quote=jtprocaddie]certain people meaning those cherry picked by ATN to write a review they approve of Not at all. Testers do not write reviews.. They try to find everything wrong with it so it can be fixed before released.. They are under a NDA so they coul dnot even write a positive review if they wanted
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 03:09 AM
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OMG. JG, can we skip the THF Rifle Match and a have a THF Cage Fight instead? I'll volunteer to go up against Joseph in the first round. He outweighs me by 400lbs, but I ain't skeered.
Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 03:12 AM
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[quote=garbs]
Most all the heartburn over the X-Sight took place before I bought any kind of night vision, so I don't really know...but it seems like ATN released update after update (and they did not work) and broke promise after promise, while folks were steaming mad about money they had tied up in optics that in many cases were useless. How many of those updates were crap?
In more recent times, Pulsar released their new line with a promise to release software that would bring all the options alive. Yes, they took a little while. What they did not do is release crap software repeatedly, the first update worked as promised. And as far as I know, the Pulsar/Sightmark guys didn't disappear during that wait time. Oh---and I don't recall ever seeing a new user show up with less than 10 posts and every one of them promoting Pulsar.
In my book, one company is operating above board with transparency and showing some integrity. I'll so no more about the other company. James Munn CEO of ATN admitted that they have made mistakes... And they are determined not to repeat the mistakes of the past... All I know is that first look at the new line was WAY better than the first look of the X-Sight II. If they continue their trend of improvement this scope is going to be pretty awesome. But one will not know until you actually try it.. Like I said, when in Austin, shoot me a PM and I will pu ton in your hands for the day.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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01/31/18 03:18 AM
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in?
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in? Did not know I was banned.. And when did I violate anything? And the Raffle I did for the management deer hunt raised over 1,200 for the Houston Hurricane victims.. That money was then sent to my corporate team for my day job. Total between all of our hotels the company raised over 10,000 and was hand delivered by the CEO
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in? I'll play.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in? Did not know I was banned.. And when did I violate anything? And the Raffle I did for the management deer hunt raised over 1,200 for the Houston Hurricane victims.. That money was then sent to my corporate team for my day job. Total between all of our hotels the company raised over 10,000 and was hand delivered by the CEO You haven’t been banned or violated anything , yet... Thanks for supporting the Hurricane victims BTW
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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Sachals comments alone tell me that customer service it still a problem.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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OMG. JG, can we skip the THF Rifle Match and a have a THF Cage Fight instead? I'll volunteer to go up against Joseph in the first round. He outweighs me by 400lbs, but I ain't skeered. It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in? Did not know I was banned.. And when did I violate anything? And the Raffle I did for the management deer hunt raised over 1,200 for the Houston Hurricane victims.. That money was then sent to my corporate team for my day job. Total between all of our hotels the company raised over 10,000 and was hand delivered by the CEO You haven’t been banned or violated anything , yet... BS he got banned last year for copyright violations or something. Think he started another account and got that one popped too.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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BS he got banned last year for copyright violations or something. Think he started another account and got that one popped too. No sir.. I have never been banned. This is my only account. I do not have time for multiple accounts haha Look at the member date on my account. And I believe the way forums work, if you get banned they ban your IP address so no new names can be created.
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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn
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You toooooootality glazed over the part that flickering “blinking” was supposed to be fixed over 2 years ago....
And no they don’t want to wait until it’s perfect before releasing it - not in this world or the next or even fantasy land because they’ve missed that boat at every opportunity to hold off versus release in previous Xsight iterations
Can we just fast forward past all the BS
You send JG your second scope
He reviews it and tells the problems
And then you’ll come on here and say the firmware doesn’t do that yet or better yet it’s user error and basically defend the cons until hell freezes over
It’s played out man.
I’ll chip in 50 bucks to buy a THF community xsight that we all get to use for 1 week - max buyer pool is 10 people - that’s 500.00 to buy a scope from any dealer that wants to sell us one for a slight loss.
All reports go in a single thread and at the end of the 10 weeks we do a giveaway for the scope to disabled vets (somebody who knows how to host it runs that piece) NO RAFFLES.
JTPro can’t post in the independent review thread lest he be banned for violation
Who’s is in? That sounds like a punishment for the vets. Stick them with a scope that doesn’t work.
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