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 Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: Creekrunner]
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12/29/17 03:46 PM
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I don't know. I have hunted in TX for 10 years now and still think it's kinda strange. "You're not from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway." - Lyle Lovett Half the family left Tennessee and followed in the footsteps of Crocket and came to fight with y'all. I figure I'm just 150 years late arriving.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 03:52 PM
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What if it was 2 ft inside their fence, & had just came from your place?
At that point, why even have a fence? Why not just allow people to shoot over your fence & save them having to wait 2 minutes?
Not to state the obvious but, 2' on their side of the fence is on their property, no one needs permission to retrieve a deer they shot on their property. Makes no difference where the deer came from, no matter how big your LF place is deer go over & under fences on & off of your property everyday. Land owners do not own the free range deer on their property, no matter how much effort or money they choose to spend on them. Max, I don't know what happened to get you so obviously stirred up, have you talked to the neighboring LO, GW or Sheriff ? Like Dogcatcher said, my fence is there to contain my livestock onto my property, if I wanted to control deer movement I'd use a fencing material suitable to contain or repel whatever species I was concerned about.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 03:53 PM
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They can't shoot a deer that just came from your place? Who said that? Some people here are great at strawman arguments. You asked "What if it was two feet inside their fence and just came from your place?"
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:05 PM
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Awesome. I'm guessing you've never dealt with poachers or trespassers?
Yes, we have dealt with poachers. But none of them were any of our neighbors.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:06 PM
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They can't shoot a deer that just came from your place? Who said that? Some people here are great at strawman arguments. You asked "What if it was two feet inside their fence and just came from your place?" I didn't say they couldn't legally shoot that deer, or had no legal right to do so.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:07 PM
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What if it was 2 ft inside their fence, & had just came from your place?
At that point, why even have a fence? Why not just allow people to shoot over your fence & save them having to wait 2 minutes?
Not to state the obvious but, 2' on their side of the fence is on their property, no one needs permission to retrieve a deer they shot on their property. Makes no difference where the deer came from, no matter how big your LF place is deer go over & under fences on & off of your property everyday. Land owners do not own the free range deer on their property, no matter how much effort or money they choose to spend on them. Max, I don't know what happened to get you so obviously stirred up, have you talked to the neighboring LO, GW or Sheriff ? Like Dogcatcher said, my fence is there to contain my livestock onto my property, if I wanted to control deer movement I'd use a fencing material suitable to contain or repel whatever species I was concerned about. Have you read any of the posts from HWY MAN?
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: dogcatcher]
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12/29/17 04:09 PM
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I may have misunderstood everyone else. I thought the common complaint was neighbors shooting too many deer. That is a problem also, in many places. & your correct, a draw system will 1 day be necessary. 7 million deer in Texas? Is that just WT? There's 28 million people in Texas. There's more hunters than deer Only 1.2 million hunting licenses sold. Not all of them will hunt deer. Let me help. As long as there is private land in Texas, both high and low fenced, there will be huntable numbers of both whitetail and mule deer. Now, back to the original subject.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:11 PM
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The fenceline hunter ( ASSUMING HE IS FOLLOWING THE LAW & not shooting or trespassing onto my place ) is using the law to its fullest extent. That's all I'm doing by not allowing them to trespass. That's all I can legally do to discourage people from hunting 2 ft away from my place.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: Creekrunner]
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12/29/17 04:12 PM
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I don't know. I have hunted in TX for 10 years now and still think it's kinda strange. " that’s right,You're not from Texas, but Texas wants you anyway." - Lyle Lovett Hey hey hey young man, if you’re gonna quote the king of cool at least get it right..
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:15 PM
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The fenceline hunter ( ASSUMING HE IS FOLLOWING THE LAW & not shooting or trespassing onto my place ) is using the law to its fullest extent. That's all I'm doing by not allowing them to trespass. That's all I can legally do to discourage people from hunting 2 ft away from my place.
Not true at all. You can set up your shooting range (and any number of equally obnoxious things right across the fence from him. Including fencing him out. You just think too small.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:18 PM
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Have you read any of the posts from HWY MAN?
Yes, for years, back to at least 07. And Yes, I've had to deal with poachers and or trespassers on every piece of property I've owned or leased going back to the late 70's, same with my Dad, aunts & uncles, brother & grand mothers & fathers before them. Thats one reason we have county sheriffs & game wardens.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:25 PM
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The fenceline hunter ( ASSUMING HE IS FOLLOWING THE LAW & not shooting or trespassing onto my place ) is using the law to its fullest extent. That's all I'm doing by not allowing them to trespass. That's all I can legally do to discourage people from hunting 2 ft away from my place.
Not true at all. You can set up your shooting range (and any number of equally obnoxious things right across the fence from him. Including fencing him out. You just think too small. I can't deny being small minded. But you may need to re-read the law, as what you described is a clear violation. & I am following your lead on HF. That is truly a landowners only legal recourse.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:27 PM
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Since he asked I would let him in but would ask him to reconsider his blind placement to avoid them coming into my property again. Keep the peace with the neighbors.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:29 PM
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The fenceline hunter ( ASSUMING HE IS FOLLOWING THE LAW & not shooting or trespassing onto my place ) is using the law to its fullest extent. That's all I'm doing by not allowing them to trespass. That's all I can legally do to discourage people from hunting 2 ft away from my place.
Not true at all. You can set up your shooting range (and any number of equally obnoxious things right across the fence from him. Including fencing him out. You just think too small. I can't deny being small minded. But you may need to re-read the law, as what you described is a clear violation. & I am following your lead on HF. That is truly a landowners only legal recourse. Nope. Nothing I stated is illegal. You assumed something I didn’t say. One can certainly put their shooting range anywhere on their property. Never said what direction. Just having it there would be enough. You could also put one of those jobsite boom boxes out there on a timer to run loud during hunting hours. Be creative. But yes. A high fence is the best option.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:36 PM
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Nope. Nothing I stated is illegal. You assumed something I didn’t say. One can certainly put their shooting range anywhere on their property. Never said what direction. Just having it there would be enough.
You could also put one of those jobsite boom boxes out there on a timer to run loud during hunting hours. Be creative. I assure you, what you just described is certainly illegal.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:36 PM
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Nope. Nothing I stated is illegal. You assumed something I didn’t say. One can certainly put their shooting range anywhere on their property. Never said what direction. Just having it there would be enough.
You could also put one of those jobsite boom boxes out there on a timer to run loud during hunting hours. Be creative. I assure you, what you just described is certainly illegal. Wanna bet?
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 04:40 PM
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He can call it harassment all day long. But as long as it’s on my side of the fence I can defend it.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/29/17 04:40 PM
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Iwasnt gonna get into this thread but i guess im as guilty of putting my stand on the fencline as anybody. I have 47 acres with 3 stands but all point in toward my land. And unlike maximus i dont think i own the deer that i hunt and if a neighbor shot a deer and asked to retrieve it it would be fine with me. I also plant food plots and feed but if my neighbor shot a nice deer i would be happy for him even if i saw the same deer on my place. I DONT own the deer on my place just like to hunt em!
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:05 PM
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He can call it harassment all day long. But as long as it’s on my side of the fence I can defend it. I would be happy to take that bet.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:06 PM
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Iwasnt gonna get into this thread but i guess im as guilty of putting my stand on the fencline as anybody. I have 47 acres with 3 stands but all point in toward my land. And unlike maximus i dont think i own the deer that i hunt and if a neighbor shot a deer and asked to retrieve it it would be fine with me. I also plant food plots and feed but if my neighbor shot a nice deer i would be happy for him even if i saw the same deer on my place. I DONT own the deer on my place just like to hunt em! Nice. 1 Stand per 15.6 acres.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:10 PM
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Yep thats about right. just me and wife and thick east tx woods.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:13 PM
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Next year they just won't ask ....
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:33 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of dang lawer's.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:39 PM
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What if it was 2 ft inside their fence, & had just came from your place?
At that point, why even have a fence? Why not just allow people to shoot over your fence & save them having to wait 2 minutes?
I would take the guys word for it and let him look. The fence is there to keep cattle on my side of the fence. [/quote] Awesome. I'm guessing you've never dealt with poachers or trespassers? [/quote] Man you must think there is a criminal lurking behind every tree. I don’t know how you sleep at night worrying that someone might be shooting one of YOUR deer. There is huge difference between someone hunting your fenceline and that person poaching or trespassing. Anyone that has ever read my opinion knows that I don’t think high fences are cool but I make an exception for you. You need to high fence your place and put razor wire on top of it so you can sleep at night.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/29/17 05:46 PM
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AMEN huntwest. To me if its two feet or two inches it doesnt matter as long as its on his place and yes even if it came from my side of the fence. Again not my deer.
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