Sometimes I'm not real smart so help me here...

So, IF you have never bought anything but Doe, AND have killed off all the states deer........ How are those doe getting bred????????

I haven't read all the posts but did not see an answer to the question from a legal perspective.

As I understand it, you don't have to let anyone on your property to recover a deer.

In Texas, you do not legally have to let anyone in your property. It is against the law to trespass without consent from the land owner.

Old subject but one that pops up every year and it doesn't get any better. Allot of members have hunted on my place and verify what I have to deal with as far as fence line hunters. Right now I have a total of ten blinds and feeders surrounding my place, all withing 100 yards and some withing touching distance from my side of the fence. I feed 12 spots on 3 sections with no feeding area's within 200 yards of the fence and I have no visible blinds on the place. The little 5-10 and 20 acre places on my south side are the biggest headache with 7 blinds on a 1 mile stretch of fence. I've found drag marks and they've even cut holes in the fence. The reason they set up this way is mostly my fault in wanting to keep a healthy population of deer in that area. I've got the only natural pasture left in that area and have 3 different water sources (All wells). I feed 4 to 5 thousand pounds of corn a month in defense just to keep the deer from jumping the fences and needing to feed elsewhere. Last year there was a total of 22 deer shot on the other side of my south fence and all were shot within 100 yards of the fence line. Before anybody says it let me just say that their places have no resident deer, all the bedding area's are on my side. There's absolutely nothing I can do about this with the exception of the dragging deer back and fence cutting. The common courtesy of not crowding others has gone to the wayside, no different than what I hear the duck hunters complain about or fishermen. Respect for your neighbor is lost these days and getting worse. This leads to another subject which we're seeing more and more of and that's landowners hi-fencing their property. Some do it for genetics and control while others do it simply to cut their loses due to the unregulated and out of control hunting of their neighbors. Can't afford 8 miles of hi-fence but 1 mile along the south would sure stop some of the problems. And as far as the state owning the deer I don't see it that way. They don't supply the land, the water or the feed it takes to keep these deer healthy I do! I control the population on this place and I determine what does and doesn't come off of it. If everybody shot what was on their tags like my neighbors do this population would be gone. I've never made a penny off of hunting this place and never will, luckily I don't have to but I sure feel for those who rely on hunting to pay the bill's. Until this is under control all you're going to see is more and more people getting fenced out and less and less affordable hunting, with nobody to blame but hunters themselves. It's a sad thing to watch.

Old subject but one that pops up every year and it doesn't get any better. Allot of members have hunted on my place and verify what I have to deal with as far as fence line hunters. Right now I have a total of ten blinds and feeders surrounding my place, all withing 100 yards and some withing touching distance from my side of the fence. I feed 12 spots on 3 sections with no feeding area's within 200 yards of the fence and I have no visible blinds on the place. The little 5-10 and 20 acre places on my south side are the biggest headache with 7 blinds on a 1 mile stretch of fence. I've found drag marks and they've even cut holes in the fence. The reason they set up this way is mostly my fault in wanting to keep a healthy population of deer in that area. I've got the only natural pasture left in that area and have 3 different water sources (All wells). I feed 4 to 5 thousand pounds of corn a month in defense just to keep the deer from jumping the fences and needing to feed elsewhere. Last year there was a total of 22 deer shot on the other side of my south fence and all were shot within 100 yards of the fence line. Before anybody says it let me just say that their places have no resident deer, all the bedding area's are on my side. There's absolutely nothing I can do about this with the exception of the dragging deer back and fence cutting. The common courtesy of not crowding others has gone to the wayside, no different than what I hear the duck hunters complain about or fishermen. Respect for your neighbor is lost these days and getting worse. This leads to another subject which we're seeing more and more of and that's landowners hi-fencing their property. Some do it for genetics and control while others do it simply to cut their loses due to the unregulated and out of control hunting of their neighbors. Can't afford 8 miles of hi-fence but 1 mile along the south would sure stop some of the problems. And as far as the state owning the deer I don't see it that way. They don't supply the land, the water or the feed it takes to keep these deer healthy I do! I control the population on this place and I determine what does and doesn't come off of it. If everybody shot what was on their tags like my neighbors do this population would be gone. I've never made a penny off of hunting this place and never will, luckily I don't have to but I sure feel for those who rely on hunting to pay the bill's. Until this is under control all you're going to see is more and more people getting fenced out and less and less affordable hunting, with nobody to blame but hunters themselves. It's a sad thing to watch.

Something has changed for sure. As a kid, it was commonplace for hounds to run deer across multiple properties and no one had a problem with it. And to the hunter who was lucky enough to kill a deer in front of them, more power to him.

But back then, the entire focus was on meat. Antlers were secondary. It's the opposite today.

Something has changed for sure. As a kid, it was commonplace for hounds to run deer across multiple properties and no one had a problem with it. And to the hunter who was lucky enough to kill a deer in front of them, more power to him.

But back then, the entire focus was on meat. Antlers were secondary. It's the opposite today.

Was that big ranch country or big woods with lots of small properties?

Trophy bucks were not a valued commodity then like they are now.

I think you are dead on here Dan. The thing that has changed is the amount of hunters that think they should be able to control what others do on their own land. As others have stated it is a sad thing to watch for sure. Trophy hunting and HFs will eventually ruin hunting as we know it.

I think you are dead on here Dan. The thing that has changed is the amount of hunters that think they should be able to control what others do on their own land. As others have stated it is a sad thing to watch for sure. Trophy hunting and HFs will eventually ruin hunting as we know it.

Which one is it? In one breath you say a person can do what they want on their own land and in the other you say a person is ruining hunting by doing what he wants on his own land. Just as a person has a right to hunt a fence-line I also have the right to make that fence line a high fence.

You can do what you want on your own land, while also ruining hunting.

It may be time for Texas to go to a limited draw, instead of buying tags over the counter.

It may be time for Texas to go to a limited draw, instead of buying tags over the counter.

Huh?!