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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/27/17 10:22 PM
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I said it before and I will say it again, the bow hunter on 100 acres is a set up for a deer jumping a fence. how many posts do we read every year in october about a well shot deer that ran 300-800 yards before finally expiring? Heck, I have seen a deer with a blown up heart from a gun shot run over 75 yards. There is no way to guarantee a DRT type death with anything. By taking the mentality of the OP, we should ban bow hunting on any acreage less than 400, and gun hunting on anything less than 100 acres, as there is too much risk for deer jumping fences and stands overlooking a neighbors property. You've said a lot alright, & none of it makes any sense. Lol, it's city slicker talk Are you a bow hunter? You've never shot a deer, with an arrow, & recovered them within 400 acres? If I couldnt do any better than that, I'd take up another sport. Maybe bowling is your thing. I never said I have shot a deer and watched it run 400 yards or more, but I read about it every year during bow season and many times dogs are involved and half mile tracking jobs use up a lot of 400 acres. totally depends on how the land is situated. I am a bow hunter, hunt mainly in Oklahoma where bow season is much longer than gun season, so again, barking up the wrong tree. But you need to stop telling people what they can and can not do...just because everyone isn't robin hood doesn't mean there can't be bow hunters. Just because you don't like the idea of a deer running over a fence doesn't mean the sport isn't for everyone. Its people like you that give our sport a bad name for the anti's and the petas and all the other acronyms that are anti-hunting to use against us. "If you can't nail a running deer from 500 yards with your bow, then you shouldn't be bow hunting, maybe you should try bowling instead" Seriously, you ever read what you write before you hit send? We want more hunters, more conservationists in the sport of hunting. Why would you actively dissuade someone from the sport because they can't make a perfect DRT shot with a bow? Grow some man balls and realize the more people we have that love the sport the longer we will be able to participate in the sport
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/27/17 11:21 PM
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I know that they are shooting deer coming from me. And you are shooting deer coming from their places. Sometimes but the creek and virtually all of the cover is on my place. Most around me grass lease and the guys that lease it graze it bare and keep way too many cattle on the places. Seldom ever see a deer on the property unless jumping my fence to go to feeder 50 foot away. Like I said I don’t like it much, the feeders are too close and the blinds are close. A bad shot over my fence could hit my house which is only about a 1/4mile off the fence on one side and 350 yards on the other. I also feed corn year around because we like to see deer. They start feeding about September and quit as soon as season is over. But I just ask them not to shoot on my side of fence. I don’t build a high fence to deny them anything because I think it is mine. I also get along with them OK.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/27/17 11:25 PM
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Man, you complain more about hunters than the anti-hunters do! No kiddin'. Bla bla bla, ba f'n bla. Good Lord. I would not only give them access to recover, I would help them. If they were newbies, I might even show them how to clean it. The only time I've ever had issues is when bullets crossed my/our fence. I've had bullets zip by me 5 times in my life on different properties and a few really close, it's not my favorite thing. I would rather my neighbor put his blind on the fence and shoot into his property. All this "MY MY MY" stuff, worse than a damn spoiled kid.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 12:16 AM
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Funny thing about fence-lines. Once the fence goes up it's as much theirs as yours, no matter who built the fence. I'd never stop anyone from recovering a deer, and I'd help them all I could. I may be naive, but unless I have a really good reason to doubt someone I won't, and just having a stand on a line is no such reason.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 12:59 AM
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If Maximus really treats his neighbors like he claims to on the forum he would either be the toughest man in the county or get his arse whipped every time someone saw him at the feed store where I grew up.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/28/17 01:33 AM
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It is about a guy who doesn't like city slickers and he is expressing his views in different way s through different posts. It isn't about being neighborly, it is about being unwelcoming to city slickers. If maximus had his way, no one from Tarrant, dallas, Collin or denton countries woud be allowed to hunt in the state of texas...not to mention bexar, Austin, and all of the Houston metro....but since he doesn't ergularly deal with those city slickers he ignores them and kindly reserves his unwelcoming nature for the DFW-ites who hunt near him and his property, overlooking and watching his every move and stealing his deer as they leap the fence Just to make a correction here... most of us that hunt with big 'ol cuddly Maximus are from Collin, Denton and Dallas counties, but we sure the hell keep those Tarrant county guys away!
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: scalebuster]
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12/28/17 01:37 AM
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If Maximus really treats his neighbors like he claims to on the forum he would either be the toughest man in the county or get his arse whipped every time someone saw him at the feed store where I grew up. . Some people just know it all ( at least in their own mind )
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 02:03 AM
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Being from Tennessee I can tell you that a big place is 100 acres in my state. Its also 6-10k and there is plenty of grass. There are no "my deer, his deer" as owning deer isnt kosher. Cant legally breed them. We also think it is generally unethical, and illegal to use a feeder or put out corn. Whole different set of laws.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: skinnerback]
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12/28/17 02:07 AM
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I've had bullets zip by me 5 times in my life on different properties and a few really close, it's not my favorite thing. I would rather my neighbor put his blind on the fence and shoot into his property.
All this "MY MY MY" stuff, worse than a damn spoiled kid. Some people are slow learners. If I had 5 bullets zip past my head, I'd change something. "My My My". It's my land. Not the neighbors. That makes me a spoiled kid? I'm not obligated to let anyone into any property, just because they wanna hunt the fence line.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: therancher]
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12/28/17 02:11 AM
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First. You’re wrong in example one. I can pay a million bucks for a deer and he still doesn’t belong to me. That’s how ridiculous the states laws are. I have never bought anything but does but I did kill all the “states” deer off one of my HF ranches. So I do have a known genetic line on that place.
Of course there is no “moral high ground” in either. And I shared why I didn’t like hunters cherry picking my fence lines on the other thread.
Sometimes I'm not real smart so help me here... So, IF you have never bought anything but Doe, AND have killed off all the states deer........ How are those doe getting bred????????
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 02:23 AM
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A guy just bought a 200 ft role of 1/2 in steel cable from me. Talked about a crossing. Barbed wire wouldnt keep the neighbors out. Guess it could be worse.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 02:36 AM
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Glad I don't have DB neighbors. I could setup on the fence and they'd let me track if it crossed and they could do the same with no problems. Heck we even share trail cam pics to follow some shared deer. Im obviously lucky reading the whining here
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: JacobHerman]
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12/28/17 02:41 AM
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We also think it is generally unethical, and illegal to use a feeder or put out corn. I see you're moving to Texas in your ID panel (or whatever that's called). Should we assume you'll continue your feeder-less ways?
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 02:50 AM
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Hard to justify tracking a wounded deer over a high fence! And this is one of the reasons why there are high fences, keeps your neighbors honest
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/28/17 03:16 AM
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Hard to justify tracking a wounded deer over a high fence! And this is one of the reasons why there are high fences, keeps your neighbors honest According to some clowns....deer jump high fences with regular ease....I am sure a wounded one might also fly over one too.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 03:25 AM
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I've had bullets zip by me 5 times in my life on different properties and a few really close, it's not my favorite thing. I would rather my neighbor put his blind on the fence and shoot into his property.
All this "MY MY MY" stuff, worse than a damn spoiled kid. Some people are slow learners. If I had 5 bullets zip past my head, I'd change something. "My My My". It's my land. Not the neighbors. That makes me a spoiled kid? I'm not obligated to let anyone into any property, just because they wanna hunt the fence line. I am a slow learner when it comes to women, no doubt about that. When it comes to hunting, lighten up. I spend a TON of money on feed year round. I work year round on the place to better OUR herd but I will not be a d*** and refuse a Father and Son the right to recover their deer. If THEY shot it, it's their deer. It's just a deer. Even if it's a deer I know and have passed several times. The way I see it, the memories that those two made together is more important than me calling that deer mine and obsessing about it...as long as they are not breaking the law trespassing or shooting into my ground. When I was growing up none of this was an issue. Have hunted from 250,000 acres to 5 acres. The drive for growing trophies has changed people and some have gone nuts. Don't break the law, hunt, and quit driving yourself crazy when others don't hunt the same way that you do. PS: A hunter IS SHOWING respect to you if they call you to get permission to cross that fence.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 04:11 AM
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Nothing worse than some weekend DB setting up a pop up 5 ft from the fence 3 days before opening day of rifle season.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/28/17 04:13 AM
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First. You’re wrong in example one. I can pay a million bucks for a deer and he still doesn’t belong to me. That’s how ridiculous the states laws are. I have never bought anything but does but I did kill all the “states” deer off one of my HF ranches. So I do have a known genetic line on that place.
Of course there is no “moral high ground” in either. And I shared why I didn’t like hunters cherry picking my fence lines on the other thread.
Sometimes I'm not real smart so help me here... So, IF you have never bought anything but Doe, AND have killed off all the states deer........ How are those doe getting bred???????? He could have bought the does bred already and allowed the offspring to inbreed. Seems that I’ve heard that’s acceptable to a certain degree. I don’t know if that’s what therancher did, but it’s possible.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
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12/28/17 04:14 AM
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Nothing worse than some weekend DB setting up a pop up 5 ft from the fence 3 days before opening day of rifle season. I can think of a hundred things worse than that.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: skinnerback]
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12/28/17 04:21 AM
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I've had bullets zip by me 5 times in my life on different properties and a few really close, it's not my favorite thing. I would rather my neighbor put his blind on the fence and shoot into his property.
All this "MY MY MY" stuff, worse than a damn spoiled kid. Some people are slow learners. If I had 5 bullets zip past my head, I'd change something. "My My My". It's my land. Not the neighbors. That makes me a spoiled kid? I'm not obligated to let anyone into any property, just because they wanna hunt the fence line. I am a slow learner when it comes to women, no doubt about that. When it comes to hunting, lighten up. I spend a TON of money on feed year round. I work year round on the place to better OUR herd but I will not be a d*** and refuse a Father and Son the right to recover their deer. If THEY shot it, it's their deer. It's just a deer. Even if it's a deer I know and have passed several times. The way I see it, the memories that those two made together is more important than me calling that deer mine and obsessing about it...as long as they are not breaking the law trespassing or shooting into my ground. When I was growing up none of this was an issue. Have hunted from 250,000 acres to 5 acres. The drive for growing trophies has changed people and some have gone nuts. Don't break the law, hunt, and quit driving yourself crazy when others don't hunt the same way that you do. PS: A hunter IS SHOWING respect to you if they call you to get permission to cross that fence. All that is awesome, but they can make memories on their own place. I'm basing my decision on if they are hunting my fence line, thereby setting themselves up for having to track a deer on my place. A hunter that had a stand at a respectful distance (i.e. not watching my place), I would consider allowing them on my place.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: Sneaky]
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12/28/17 04:22 AM
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Nothing worse than some weekend DB setting up a pop up 5 ft from the fence 3 days before opening day of rifle season. I can think of a hundred things worse than that. I was being facetious, guess you didn't get it
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 04:55 AM
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This thread is off the rails. Funny, but off the rails. I would let any neighbor that called ME retrieve a legally taken wounded deer that ran onto my place. I would go with him. I’ve got news for y’all: if your neighbor is truly an idiot slob he ain’t going to call you anyway. He’s just going to go on your place and get it. Hell, he probably shot it on your place to start with. And I’m not going to put up a HF and go from hunter to zookeeper just because of a bad neighbor. Bad neighbors can be dealt with - just takes time and patience.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: SmallTownHunter]
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12/28/17 05:16 AM
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Nothing worse than some weekend DB setting up a pop up 5 ft from the fence 3 days before opening day of rifle season. I can think of a hundred things worse than that. I was being facetious, guess you didn't get it So was I. I guess you didn’t get it.
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 05:39 AM
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Bunch of crybaby arseclowns turning THF into a damn cesspool!
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Re: Allowing deer recovery
[Re: maximus_flavius]
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12/28/17 05:43 AM
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I wouldn't have a problem with any neighbor asking for permission. That is how it has always been done in our part of Texas.
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