So, any .50? Or just the BMG?

I don’t draw a line.

No lines will drawn by Sneaky!

I don’t think it should be illegal.

OTOH, I think hunters have every right to speak their mind about how we present ourselves to the rest of the non-hunting world.
No different than when folks express their disgust at all the TV idiots yelling “Boo-Yah!!”/giggling while a deer is still in its death throes, blowing up hogs with tannerite to laughter, and a bunch of other stuff. Heck, I could make a montage video from YouTube clips that would make even hunters blanche.
This one is a relatively mild example - yet most see it for the stupid exercise it is.

Nothing wrong with hunters expressing their opinions on fringe/goofy/stupid stuff and applying peer pressure.

It’s really not the fact that people kill stuff in lots of different ways that’s the problem - it’s putting it on video and laughing/celebrating/talking about “sucking out eyeballs”, etc. that’s the problem.

I don’t have a problem with expressing opinions about it. I did the same. I have an issue with people wanting to ban something just because they don’t like it.

I think this video produces negative PR for our sport. Absolute rubbish.

I think a lot of his TV shows and videos do exactly that.

Keith Warren is a tool. And a fool.

I personally think it's an attention grab and maybe a poor choice to put it on film and on YouTube, but I don't see it as being unethical.

I shot a deer in the head with a 130 grain interlock launched from my .270 and it blew the side out of her head eyeballs and all. A lot messier than what you see in the video.

That said I don't see need to use a Barrett .50 cal to shoot a deer for a film


But as far as being unethical or wrong, I don't think so

To me, “ethics” is not only about a particular action (though some actions are clearly unethical on their face), but also the motive(s) behind the action. I agree with you that the act in and of itself is not unethical (a shot deer is a shot deer - it doesn’t know it was shot with a .270 or a .50 Cal). IMO it’s the doing it for attention-grabbing purposes that drags this into the realm of unethical. I feel the same about many otherwise legal and even ethical acts.

Given that all hunting shows compete for attention and attempt to garner it by producing what they hope will be interesting content, pretty much all hunting shows become unethical under such considerations.

IMO most of them these days are. Their “interesting content” sucks.

If we are going to get into a discussion about ethics, you have to include in there a discussion about intent. Many "legal" things (shooting guns in legal places and in a safe manner) become murky when the intent of the process is investigated. Had this guy made this video with the intent to show a .50BMG could suck the eyeballs out of a deer, then I think we can all say he did it in an unethical manner as that introduces an unnecessary possibility for injuring a deer without a lethal shot.

Had he made the video with the intent to kill a deer, I think we all could agree a .50BMG is more than a reasonable killing machine, but the choice of ammo (FMJ) is less than desirable but should work no less than .243 or 22-250 in a hunting round.

In this case, it appears the video was made for a kill shot, which it did. After reviewing or editing, or whatever post-production efforts are done to video these days, he thinks he sucked the eyeballs out of the deer. This is ridiculous. The fact he makes the claim without further research to verify such a claim is even possible shows a level of ethics in the production world that would get most people fired from their job. However, since he is seemingly self employed, his viewership may suffer, but he will continue on in his quest to garner more viewers with outlandish statements and (?) poor hunting judgment calls. I say that last statement based on the reviews most give him on this thread as I have never heard of him until this post.

I got it. You don't like it, therefore it is unethical.

This is the BS I was talking about. I bet half the guys in the Army believe this trash bc some E7 told them it was true.

I could agree with that line of thinking about the attention grab

KW is all about attention grabbing since he fell off the face of the outdoor world earth. That CWD social media bs he pulled was pretty indicative of that and so was that last 5 minute segment on his old show that hand picked dumb viewer questions to produce fake outrage. It’s very similar to Hollywood/athletes. Their purpose is to entertain for the duration of a time slot, nothing more, nothing less.

Sad to hear that about Keith's show.

I haven't watched a hunting show in a long time, because the ones I have seen as of late have been atrocious, but in the mid 90's I love his show.

I think this is exactly what Keith Warren exhibited.

I've shot a 50 bmg a few times and I'm not impressed with it. It may be awesome at 1200 yards but it was about as much fun shooting it as shooting a 12 gauge with reduced recoil slugs

I'm thinking the .460 Weatherby should be the minimum for jackrabbits, turkey, hogs, and cull whitetails.

From what all I have read, I would rather shoot the .50 BMG than the .460 Wby. I’ll never shoot either though.

I did too. Not sure what happened, but he went off the reservation. Seemed to be about the time he got ahold of that ranch outside of New Braunfels.

First thing I said when he shot it was eyeball shot. I've shot a Barrett 50 about 25 times or so. Used to work with a guy that bought one. It's an amazing firearm but suck the eyes out of a deer? No. It wouldn't even knock over a half quart milk jug setting a foot away beside the one I shot. It does some damage to a watermelon though. Fun gun but to expensive to own and shoot alot.

I dun dilly dilly sucked them eyes balls straight out this here deer...stupid bubba. Senseless overkill with absolutely zero respect for the animal he was firing at. Sigh, this dude gives decent hunters a bad name.

Killing a deer is killing a deer, its the same amount dead with a 50BMG as it is with a .270. Plus he wasted no meat.