I'm not a Booger Guy,as they are farrrrr too zooky,for my tastes. The 105gr .243" High Bird,is their best offering,but Skinners and Hornies are more ruggedly reliable.

It's about connectin' as many dots as possible,as consistently as possible and Terminal Effects always rate a consideration on my behalf...mainly because I've splashed too many WELL placed projectiles over the years.

Though I've had lotsa them pencil too and I've zero love for Sugars,though they tend to shoot well...............

inside of 400 yards, high BC doesn't mean jack for killing [censored]..

Used to have that argument with a friend all the time.. all he cared about was high BC cause all he wanted to do was shoot at 1k. He hated the 6.8 SPC which I am a fan of because it works great in a lightweight AR for hunting deer and pigs inside a few hundred yards. 99% of the hunters I have seen really have no business shooting much past 150!

I couldn't care less how efficient a bullet is if you aren't using the gun for that.

Use case is what matters.. and I have a few 6.8s. 308s. 6.5 Creedmoor, 22-250, etc..

This same dude would rave about for deer hunting all he needed was his 270 and I would jack with him telling him only a moron would run that caliber when the 280 is essentially the same thing but with much better ballistics.. and at the time I ran a 280AI and told him if was serious that is what he needed. His response was he didn't need it because the 270 works and he never hunts past like 200 yards. Still couldn't wrap his head around the fact that that is exactly why I liked the 6.8, for the intended use, it simply worked.

Getting all spun up over "caliber wars" is dumb.

File it under "zero Fs given"

Bullets matter more than a smidge and I enjoy those who "think" otherwise.

I shoot in the RERAL World and there's a little sumptin' called "weather" and BC is best at defeating same,though many cannot begin to connect such simplistic dots.

Joe Average ain't very bright and will go wayyyyyyyyyyy outta his way,to obliviously prove same.

Hint................

(Hint)

I'll break trail...you be sure to TRY and follow along.

Hint.............

you appear to suffer from a lack of basic reading comprehension....

Let me me clear: For 99% of the guys out there hunting well inside of 300 yards, high BC doesn't really matter, most guys are shooting at deer at a feeder a hundred yards away.

I LOVE my 6.5 Creedmoor, but it sure as hell isn't remotely "needed" for killing deer and pigs inside for a few hundred yards.

For 100% of everyone,whether cognizant or not..BC 100% has an affect well within the 300yd line.

6.5 Kreedmire is a chambering,not a bullet and bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps.

Hint.............

Me tooooo

I shoot a "few" chamberings,in a "few" twist rates,with a "few" bullets and I get it...that nobody gets it,though they "THINK" they do.

Now as Terminal Effects go and when speaking cup/core projectiles,a BC increase does more than a coupla favors,that most have less than zero inkling about. In broad brushstrokes and with but few exceptions,as BC increases in a given diameter,so does a projectile's mass. With the increased mass,comes the buffer that initial velocity will not be as great,which is a Safety Net of sorts for any/all bullets. Increased velocity impacts,task a projectile far greater,than sedate velocities do and to be clear,I'm talking like twist rates. So while upper echelon BC's greedily cling to starting velocity,in far greater fashion than Ping Pong Balls,they simply do not(ecause they can not) start out as fast. That buffers their integrity and tends to bolster terminal Effects. Hint.

That's what we in da' bidness,call "win/win".

Hint/hint.................

How old are you? (Hint)

I'm happy to be whatever you need me to be,to best salve your Realities.

Hint..............

Sounds like a hooker to me!!!

Weren't my intent to horn you up and that you need to cut checks,to connect dots...do not "surprise" me.

Hint..............

Are you mentally ill?

Or are you just old? Old dudes have a "different" since of humor so half the stuff you're saying isn't legit it's your attempt at humor. (Hint)

It's your Imagination,pretend with it as you MUST.

I'm happy to be,whatever you require,but that obviously will not include being "mistaken".

Hint..............

Still sounds like a hooker to me.

I'd not wish to slight you any of your Delusions,if only due the FACT,of how very badly you need them.

Very GOOD call to refrain any/all things The Rifle.

Hint.............

It appears that our new friend busheler has finally been ejected from the other forum.

Oh my.

Laughing!..............

And this one.

too bad, I was really enjoying Busheler's style and knowledge. It livened up this Forum to say the least.

I agree with you completely. It was an entertaining 48 hours.

Wow, didn't expect my thread to become a 9 pager...

I've also found Busheler's (aka Bigstick, Boxer) posts here and of course on 24hourcampfire to be entertaining ( at least some of them). He posts great pics and has apparently spent a ton of time (and money) putting rifles together, hunting, shooting and handloading. He's a wealth of knowledge if you care to sift through his posts.

But as we've seen here, he goes on manic posting binges and blankets entire forums to the point normal discussion is disrupted. Then he fueds with anyone who disagrees, and his posts devolve from informative to swapping insults with whoever has decided to argue with him until he's finally banned. I guess he enjoys it because he's done it at least a few times that I've seen.

Creating an unproductive situation.

No. He's not on the wall.

Hopefully he figures out the communication gap and us as well. I could be wrong, but I don't think the "hint......." is meant as an insult. He could be a positive to this forum IMO.

I would like to know where he lives. Beautiful place.