Another lie by some bested in debate so must resort to the straw man.

Debate is what we often do on here BOBO. I know some don't like it because they want to be King and all - but it happens. And it's healthy. Gets it all out there.

Confident and knowledgeable folks on a subject don't mind a debate. Only the pretenders and insecure folks do.

Debate is what we often do on here BOBO. I know some don't like it because they want to be King and all - but it happens. And it's healthy. Gets it all out there.

Confident and knowledgeable folks on a subject don't mind a debate. Only the pretenders and insecure folks do.

Negative there Sparky. Based on your professional hunting ethics lots has gone over your head the past few years. You need to grow up and quit doing the very things you accuse NP of doing. In my relatively short time around this forum I've noticed that you are often times in the middle of a pissing match of some sort, and they all turn out the same....you getting your little feelers out of sorts. Grow up, bro.

I Never said otherwise, I just noted today's conditions favored a good bite for you.

This poll is about as useful as the polls that said Trump had no chance of beating Hillary and we seen just how accurate those were

But you have to admit the responses have been very interesting. When humans are involved, the situation will eventually be a total screw up.

what if you intend to destroy/kill it until you spit a broke G3 with your high powered scope?

So a guy on private land behind locked gates with no one else around needs to act just like someone hunting public land? If i was on public land I'd use binoculars for checking out game. However where i hunt there aren't even any cattle, if it moves there's a good chance its a target. I don't automatically put my scope on everything but any movement is watched closely and i have binoculars in the stand. I have used the scope to watch rabbits or birds that i had no intention of shooting because my scope has better glass then my binoculars.

I have followed this post with dismay. This is a landowners perspective, coming from a guy who leases out A big chunk of low fence private ground in texas, where some of the biggest deer in the region are taken each year. I have been to the banquet in Austin to accept the lonestar land Steward award. (Google it if you don't know what it is). I only shared that personal information so I would not be taken as a crackpot, but a guy that has seen hunters at their best and worst..
For most landowners the hunting is small potatoes in the profitability of our land. We lease it to share the resource with other sportsmen especially the youth who are the future. Usually the monetary goal is to simply cover the property taxes, and it is a general PITA. A landowners number one concern when leasing out the hunting rights is liability. Countless times I have seen hunters engage in unsafe actions and find a way to rationalize what they want to do, to make it ok. In my eyes the experienced hunter shoulders the moral obligation to set the right example for the young and inexperienced. Scanning the woods for game with a scoped rifle is not a safe practice. Come on guys you already know that. Closer evaluation of a game animal is pretty standard stuff. Having a rifle pointed at my son and me, or getting a call that some slack jawed redneck has pointed a rifle at a nearby neighbor, or an experienced hunter has accidentally shot another hunter is bad, and unfortunately part of what a landowner letting hunters on his property deals with. After further investigation the guys always have something to say like "I thought it would be ok if I was careful".
If you can't tell what you are looking at with the naked eye, use binoculars. If it's too far for binoculars use a spotting scope. If you don't have a spotting scope get one, or get close enough to see what you are looking at BY SOME OTHER MEANS THAN POINTING A WEAPON AT IT.
The decisions some upstanding and otherwise reasonable grown men rationalize, in the name of pursuing game at times leaves me shaking my head. Hunters putting at risk the surrounding hunters, the landowners property, family, employees, and neighbors is the kind of thing that cause landowners to cease granting hunting access on their property.
Sorry about the tirade. This thread hit a nerve.

This landowner would disagree with you guys.

I don't lease my property or let anyone besides family hunt on it. This is just one of about 100 reasons.

In all fairness, I was on several deer leases for over 30 years. All my leasemates were friends (some closer than others). There were always some knuckleheads doing stupid stuff. And very few people will treat your land like it's their own. As in, really, almost no one. They will say they will, but they really don't. Because it's not theirs.