I still don't understand the differentiation in night time optics vs day time optics?

This poll "pertains to daytime only" so Mr. High Horse Safety Ranger can talk smack about scanning with a rifle during the day. Night time practices don't fit the message and dilute the smack talk. So, let's not talk about it...

Funny stuff.

I read your open bolt excuse a page or two ago. It's still a stupid idea, and I wasn't talking about that necessarily, you were. I was stating pointing a loaded weapon at an unknown, or glassing with it, is stupid.

But its ok if its dark.

Safety police, checking in. Thanks for all of the replies, even if they are much different than mine. Always curious why people believe what they believe.

I posted the exact same question on another forum, and the results were, let's say, quite a contrast to some of them offered here.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/12074874/1

First, I agree that scanning with your rifle is less than safe. But the price of night visions scanners makes it no less unsafe at night. It is just less convenient so safety is overlooked. That is, if you really truly feel it is unsafe to scan with your rifle.

So, what is the break even price on safe scanning...

The question pertained to scanning with the rifle scope. As in you are sitting in a blind, on a ridge, or where ever and instead of scanning with your naked eyes, binos, spotting scope you are scanning with your rifle optic. I don't think that is a good idea at all.

Now if I spot a deer or hog or whatever and I am considering shooting it then I will bring my gun up and get a better look especially if its past 100 yds. Usually I spot the movement first with my naked eye or Binos. This practice I consider safe bc you have identified the object just want a closer look.

I think a lot of the argument is based off of people not understanding the differences I just described.

I will say I use my rifle with NV at night to scan. Im not just walking around scanning though I know where I am and I am positive there are no people around me. Usually sitting on a ridge or in a blind overlooking a feeder.

How can you ever be positive there are no people around you. Whether they might be trespassing or lost or looking for a wounded animal I don't quite understand how you know there isn't an illegal walking up from Mexico. Could you explain your system for Knowing someone isn't tracking their radio GPS hunting hound??

How can you ever be positive there are no people around you. Whether they might be trespassing or lost or looking for a wounded animal I don't quite understand how you know there isn't an illegal walking up from Mexico. Could you explain your system for Knowing someone isn't tracking their radio GPS hunting hound??

I hunt about 6-8 hours from Mexico so no illegals running around, the other place I hunt is a 10K acre lease usually only a couple people there at a time and none really night hunt. Also its is very rugged terrain and people have their specific hunting areas. If your trespassing you should have a gun pointed at you.

We own property in Erath county and there are illegals there and also in Cooke county. I know a person who used to keep three illegals in an old trailer on the outskirts of Weatherford, they went out at night to bathe in a windmill tank. Regarding very rugged terrain, for twenty years I hunted west Texas, Sanderson to Ector and Ward county. A 10K acre lease means squat. Tell me about your rugged terrain. The person you think is trespassing could be the landowner's drunk nephew. And he might be drunk enough to throw down on you. Not to count the drug deals going down in some isolated area.

Sapper has given some good responses, but (as I'm still learning) once you engage in an ignorant thread it is only going to end up more ignorant most of the time. Sapper is not ignorant, nor am I or many others on here. Some of us have been hunting safely for a long time and find it strange that there is this new phenomenon of safety that we didn't already know bout. Soooooo, you see your target through your top dollar binos..positively identify, put them down, pick up your rifle and probably then chamber a round because you have little to no real hunting experience outside of internet forums & TV and are most likely scared of the rifle anyway and don't understand the concept of being quiet and quick....so you then carefully slide your rifle out of the window of your blind and pray that there are no innocents in or behind your field of view. You want to make the shot but you are so nervous about what your wife thinks there is no WAY you are going to make a quick and humane kill...so you get the shakes and shoot for lungs. When you don't find your animal, you blame the rifle/bullet/scope/weather/whatever. I've seen it many times and is typical. On private land where you know your surroundings of course you scan with your scope when you need to. How many of you have been stalking/rattling deer during the rut covering good sized areas? You do a lot of looking with your rifle on the ready at your shoulders, while your partner is calling. Guess we're stupid and are gonna shoot somebody. Good lord man.