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Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/06/17 04:12 PM
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I swear, as long as I sat in my chair up on the ridge top and did nothing, the cattle just meandered around and paid me no mind. Once I would get up to walk anywhere, 40 or 50 would come with me, never too close, but paralleling me and making all sorts of racket. Twice I spied this group of hogs coming out of the woods. Wind was not a problem. However, when I would advance, so would all my helpers. Twice the hogs were pushed back into the woods. The third time, I tried going slower after first letting the hogs come much farther out into the field. This helped, some. Even so, the hogs got pushed out by the cattle's thrumming hooves and moos. So I went ahead and took a laggard. The Cavity Back Bullets seemed to work just fine. Had I done my part, I would have only needed one shot, but I pulled the first shot. All three appeared to have opened, but all three overpenetrated and were not recovered. The second shot (and slow mo in the credits) can be seen impacting the dirt behind the hog. Had the hog not been recovered, it would almost look like it completely missed, but it dropped the hog for the 2nd time.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/06/17 04:59 PM
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It seems that your suppressor still allows enough sound out to spook the hogs. I will say that you are a lot more comfortable shooting around cattle than I am and cattle are the reason I like quick expanders that don't exit all the time. I am glad my hog problem hasn't reached the numbers you video for us regularly! Wow!
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/06/17 05:51 PM
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If you are shooting supersonic ammo, the hogs will spook. There will always be the sonic crack of the bullet as it flies through the air. The THWACK of impact will often spook them as well. That is just the nature of the beast, unfortunately.
The cattle are a pain. I have been hunting around them for several years. Some are curious. Some will run from you. Some will follow you like a puppy (wanting food). Some (the ones I like) just ignore you. Every heard is a bit different.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/07/17 12:00 AM
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I set a baited spot up the day before and sneaked onto it after dark. It got even darker as the clouds came in and a bit of lightning in the distance, Suddenly a horse nuzzled me from behind and came incredibly close to bullet test material! The horse was tresspassing and lost but that was a scare I haven't matched since. Cows are always a pain, if it's brushy it's hard to know exactly where they are.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/07/17 02:17 AM
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/07/17 04:31 PM
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I like beef as much as anyone, but I agree that cattle can be a pain in the rear when hunting. They tend to associate humans and pickup trucks as food sources and follow me around. Or, sometimes they're just nervous and take off. Either way they tend to spook the hogs. Still, hunting on someone else's property means dealing with the circumstances. Glad you got at least one!
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/07/17 04:52 PM
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And don't you just hate it when they get in your line of fire.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/07/17 06:09 PM
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Yeah, one property I hunt, they tend to surround me. Fortunately, they get the hint after a couple hundred yards that I don't have anything for them.
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06/29/17 03:53 AM
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One of the places I've been lucky enough to hunt the past few years and one time I was sitting in the stand and heard something walking up slowly and then slammed the deer blind turned out it was a cow and it wasn't happy and head butted the stand 3 times after I took my mask off it got curious and stuck it's head in the blind with me!
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/29/17 11:32 AM
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I had a hunter earlier this week see a big pig that stayed right with the cows. Never gave him a safe shot.
They are always learning. Bovine body shields.
One shot is all it should take.
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06/29/17 01:49 PM
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Yeah, when I move my cows into a pasture, the hogs move to another pasture for the most part.
A few years ago, we had a 80-100 pound feral that adopted my cows and went everywhere they did. He was there in morning for feed. When the cows were grazing in the field, he was out there with them. When they laid down in shade mid-day, he laid down with them. He ran around and played with the calves.
After a few months of free feed and grazing, he became bacon.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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06/29/17 04:09 PM
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We've shot hogs in the same field as cows and the death squeals prompted the herd to circle and protect the dying hog.
It was strange behavior to watch as the cows traveled 200 yards in a hurry to surround the pig and stayed with it until we shooed them off so we could collect the pig.
One cow was nudging the hog as if to say get up Man they're coming....
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/04/17 08:40 AM
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I have several game pics with the cows and hogs together licking on a salt block. It will make it hard, but when I get the clear shot I'm going for it.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/04/17 01:29 PM
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pigplinker, just a word of caution...try not to shoot when there are cattle down range of the hog within about 30 degrees or so on each side of your intended hog. Bullet deflection through hogs is a very real issue and so while the cattle may not be in direct line with your shot, cattle down range of your hog on either side may still be at risk.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/04/17 08:35 PM
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Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/04/17 10:05 PM
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Not with 540 grains of hardcast. Well, yeah … The rules ARE a bit different if you're shooting a howitzer!
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/04/17 11:24 PM
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That oughtta work, 540 grains of thump. Dang, how slow do those run?
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/05/17 12:10 AM
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That oughtta work, 540 grains of thump. Dang, how slow do those run? I load these to about 1100 fps, but can take them up to 1300 fps in my 458 SOCOM. I use this load when I have a group of pigs coming into one of two dedicated hog stands that I keep baited out. I Just wait for two or more pigs to get 'lined up'. For anything else I stay with a 300 to 405 grain bullet.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/05/17 01:55 PM
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Yep, even those will deflect.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/05/17 02:37 PM
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That oughtta work, 540 grains of thump. Dang, how slow do those run? I load these to about 1100 fps, but can take them up to 1300 fps in my 458 SOCOM. I use this load when I have a group of pigs coming into one of two dedicated hog stands that I keep baited out. I Just wait for two or more pigs to get 'lined up'. For anything else I stay with a 300 to 405 grain bullet. oh, I didn't notice the rebated rim. First looked like aac blk. Been craving a big bore ar for a new build.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: Cattle Don't Make For Good Hunting Companions
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07/05/17 03:28 PM
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Yep, even those will deflect. Yes, about 1/8" inch or so.
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