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TEXAS New Chronic Wasting Disease Management Response Rules Adopted #6777059 05/28/17 03:25 PM
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SATURDAY, MAY 27, 2017

TEXAS New Chronic Wasting Disease Management Response Rules Adopted

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/texas-new-chronic-wasting-disease.html

SATURDAY, MAY 27, 2017

Infectious Prions in the Pregnancy Microenvironment of CWD-infected Reeves' Muntjac Deer

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/infectious-prions-in-pregnancy.html

Wednesday, May 24, 2017

PRION2017 CONFERENCE VIDEO UPDATE 23 – 26 May 2017 Edinburgh UPDATE 1

http://prionprp.blogspot.com/2017/05/prion2017-conference-video-update-23-26.html

FRIDAY, MAY 26, 2017

OIE World Assembly of OIE Delegates distributed SCOTLAND, NORTHERN IRELAND, AND POLAND BSE NEGLIGIBLE RISK STATUS

http://transmissiblespongiformencephalop...-delegates.html

kind regards, terry

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Hope they can get this under control

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Originally Posted By: Craw3773
Hope they can get this under control
"THEY" are the ones that started this mess.

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Originally Posted By: Craw3773
Hope they can get this under control
Kinda like trying to control fire ant or zebra mussels, once its out of the bag its OUT.

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Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.

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Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


According to some that's impossible and a lie!!! rofl

For the record I concur with you up


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Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


Are you listening flounder?

If they would of followed your solution there would be no deer to hunt!


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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


Are you listening flounder?

If they would of followed your solution there would be no deer to hunt!


We all know that terry never listens to reason.


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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


Are you listening flounder?

If they would of followed your solution there would be no deer to hunt!


No, he already stated his motives. He wants deer and elk eliminated. He thinks CWD is transferable to humans. He will not stop his propaganda mission until hunting deer and elk is stopped via law or elimination of the species


Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


Are you listening flounder?

If they would of followed your solution there would be no deer to hunt!


No, he already stated his motives. He wants deer and elk eliminated. He thinks CWD is transferable to humans. He will not stop his propaganda mission until hunting deer and elk is stopped via law or elimination of the species



for the record, i have never stated i wanted _all_ deer and elk eliminated. just the ones with cwd or those that have been exposed to cwd. more made up stuff from bobo the clown. ...

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/first-evidence-of-intracranial-and.html

kind regards, terry

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Terry,
You do realize you previous posts are public record?

Up until 4 months ago Only why to find out if an animal had CWD was to "kill it" and test it.


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I'm glad someone is summarizing I need the Cliff's notes on these threads.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Originally Posted By: flounder
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: Wytex
Don't panic. It won't kill them all. We hunt an endemic area in Wyoming, where it was brought in to study at an enclosed facility.
We shoot older aged deer every year and regularly find winterkill bucks at 8 1/2 - 10 1/2 years old.
It will stay in the environment so you have to learn to live with it.


Are you listening flounder?

If they would of followed your solution there would be no deer to hunt!


No, he already stated his motives. He wants deer and elk eliminated. He thinks CWD is transferable to humans. He will not stop his propaganda mission until hunting deer and elk is stopped via law or elimination of the species



for the record, i have never stated i wanted _all_ deer and elk eliminated. just the ones with cwd or those that have been exposed to cwd. more made up stuff from bobo the clown. ...

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/first-evidence-of-intracranial-and.html

kind regards, terry


For the record, based on your reply there would be no deer to hunt in the area in Wyoming that Wytex referred to in his post.


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CWD has always been present. You won't find something if you don't test for it.

Texas hunters harvest something around 500,000 deer each year. You test that many you are gonna find it. EHD and blue tongue are way worse than CWD.

This started as a witch hunt against breeders and it back fired severely


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Chronic Wasting Disease: CFIA Research Summary

Embargoed until May 23, 2017

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Research Findings

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is a progressive, fatal disease of the nervous system of cervids including deer, elk, moose, and reindeer that is caused by abnormal proteins called prions. It is known as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE). Other TSEs include scrapie in sheep, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in cattle, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) in humans.

A limited number of experimental studies have demonstrated that non-human primates, specifically squirrel monkeys, are susceptible to CWD prions. An ongoing research study has now shown that CWD can also be transmitted to macaques, which are genetically closer to humans.

The study led by Dr. Stefanie Czub, a scientist at the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), and funded by the Alberta Prion Research institute has demonstrated that by orally administering material under experimental conditions from cervids (deer and elk) naturally infected with CWD, the disease can be transmitted to macaques.

in this project, which began in 2009, 18 macaques were exposed to CWD in a variety of ways: by injecting into the brain, through contact with skin, oral administration, and intravenously (into the bloodstream through veins). So far, results are available from 5 animals. At this point, two animals that were exposed to CWD by direct introduction into the brain, one that was administered infected brain material by oral administration and two that were given infected muscle by oral administration have become infected with CWD. The study is ongoing and testing continues in the remaining animals. The early results will be presented at PRlON 2017, the annual international conference on prion diseases, in Edinburgh, Scotland, May 23 to 26, 2017.

Potential impacts of the new finding

Since 2003 Canada has a policy that recommends that animals and materials known to be infected with prions be removed from the food chain and from health products. Although no direct evidence of CWD prion transmission to humans has ever been recorded, the policy advocates a precautionary approach to managing CWD and potential human exposure to prions. These initial findings do not change Health Canada’s Health Products and Food Branch (HPFB) position on food and health products. A precautionary approach is still recommended to manage the potential risks of exposure to prions through food and health products. Measures are in place at federal, provincial and territorial levels to reduce human exposure to products potentially contaminated by CWD by preventing known infected animals from entering the marketplace.

While Federal and P/T government’s animal disease control policies continue to divert known CWD-infected animals away from entering the food and feed supply, research and development of sensitive detection methods including live-animal sampling techniques remain crucial for ensuring an accurate diagnosis. In addition, consistent federal, provincial and territorial communications of appropriate precautionary measures for hunters and indigenous communities are required.

Next Steps

The CFlA will continue to collaborate with national and international partners to develop and validate new diagnostic techniques. The CFlA will also continue to offer confirmatory testing services and reference laboratory expertise to provincial and territorial partners on demand.

Currently, CFlA laboratories are leading or collaborating on several research projects to understand the potential for CWD to infect humans. These projects use non‐human primates, genetically modified mice, and cell-free amplification approaches. Given the present findings, CFiA encourages continued research into TSEs.

The results of this study reinforce the need to redesign the federal program to foster greater adoption of risk mitigation measures for farmed cervids. Federal and provincial government collaboration will continue as new program options are assessed.

The results of Dr. Czub’s research into CWD will be of interest to scientists, governments, industry and people who consume cervid products. After the presentation at PRION 2017, the research will follow the normal steps of completion, peer review and publication. The Government of Canada will monitor the response to this research and determine whether further review of the science is required. Other studies underway by other researchers may also become public as a result of the presentation of Dr. Czub’s research.

The Public Health Agency of Canada, Health Canada, CFlA and other Federal partners are working together to assess what policies or programs need further review as well as preparing other communications about the research and health policy and advice to Canadian. 2017/04/28

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0:30 First evidence of intracranial and peroral transmission of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) into Cynomolgus macaques: a work in progress

Dr Stefanie Czub University of Calgary Faculty of Veterinary Medicine/Canadian Food Inspection Agency Canada

http://prion2017.org/programme/

WEDNESDAY, MAY 03, 2017

*** First evidence of intracranial and peroral transmission of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) into Cynomolgus macaques

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/first-evidence-of-intracranial-and.html

Wednesday, May 24, 2017

PRION2017 CONFERENCE VIDEO UPDATE 23 – 26 May 2017 Edinburgh UPDATE 1

http://prionprp.blogspot.com/2017/05/prion2017-conference-video-update-23-26.html

ehd vs cwd apples and oranges folks, apples and oranges...

http://collections.europarchive.org/tna/20081106170650/http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1992/11/04001001.pdf

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v525/n7568/full/nature15369.html#/comments

Self-Propagative Replication of Ab Oligomers Suggests Potential Transmissibility in Alzheimer Disease

*** Singeltary comment PLoS ***

Alzheimer’s disease and Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy prion disease, Iatrogenic, what if ?

Posted by flounder on 05 Nov 2014 at 21:27 GMT

http://www.plosone.org/annotation/listThread.action?root=82860



with sad regards, terry

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CWD has always been present. You won't find something if you don't test for it.

Texas hunters harvest something around 500,000 deer each year. You test that many you are gonna find it. EHD and blue tongue are way worse than CWD.

This started as a witch hunt against breeders and it back fired severely


Yes it did. They are finding as much in free range populations as in captive populations.

They didn't see that coming (another of many reasons to question their intelligence), and it's costing the state big time. Can't wait to see if they'll try the long proven worthless methods of control that have failed in all examples. You know, like the one flounder proposes. loser8


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TUESDAY, JUNE 06, 2017

CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION ZOONOSIS ZOONOTIC INSIDIOUS AND DIRE CONSEQUENCES AHEAD

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/06/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-tse-prion.html

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From what I've seen they've found 1 free ranging case in a whitetail and the rest have been on breeding facilities. The free ranging case was near the index facility where it was originally detected at the breeder in Medina County.

the remainder were from a free ranging elk in the panhandle, and free ranging mule deer in the low deer density and isolated Hueco Mtns. Which TPWD was testing there prior to anything going on with the whitetails or new breeder requirements. So your comment seems a bit off base. When you say they are finding as much in free ranging animals as breeders. 1 free ranging case vs. 26+ in breeding facilities for whitetail.

Not taking sides just presenting the facts as I know them.


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From what I've seen they've found 1 free ranging case in a whitetail and the rest have been on breeding facilities. The free ranging case was near the index facility where it was originally detected at the breeder in Medina County.

the remainder were from a free ranging elk in the panhandle, and free ranging mule deer in the low deer density and isolated Hueco Mtns. Which TPWD was testing there prior to anything going on with the whitetails or new breeder requirements. So your comment seems a bit off base. When you say they are finding as much in free ranging animals as breeders. 1 free ranging case vs. 26+ in breeding facilities for whitetail.

Not taking sides just presenting the facts as I know them.


Might need to re-define what you think a free-ranging cervid is, according to the actual definition. When you do simple math and divide numbers of positives by actual numbers of tests of Breeders and LF. LF has a higher percentage of positives



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Originally Posted By: tinkerbell
From what I've seen they've found 1 free ranging case in a whitetail and the rest have been on breeding facilities. The free ranging case was near the index facility where it was originally detected at the breeder in Medina County.

the remainder were from a free ranging elk in the panhandle, and free ranging mule deer in the low deer density and isolated Hueco Mtns. Which TPWD was testing there prior to anything going on with the whitetails or new breeder requirements. So your comment seems a bit off base. When you say they are finding as much in free ranging animals as breeders. 1 free ranging case vs. 26+ in breeding facilities for whitetail.

Not taking sides just presenting the facts as I know them.


You simply aren't working with a valid data set. Why would you limit your data set to white tails? It infects mule deer, elk, sika, and red deer. CWD is wide spread across the state. It's not significantly impacting any populations (as expected since it never has), but it's prevalence is higher outside the high fence.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6781056/Re:_The_current_testing_data_o#Post6781056


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