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Smith/weight training machines #6770840 05/22/17 02:19 AM
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Anyone recommend a good smith/weight training machine? Prices are $500-$5000+. Obviously, the lower end machines look like crap.

Because I am really wanting to do rope pull downs and sitting butterfly, would it be safe to purchase a low end Marcy? I figure two years of service would be okay.

1 - $700 from Academy - http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/marcy-sm-4008-smith-machine#repChildCatid=696542

2 - $250 from Academy - http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/marcy-mwm-9880-lb-stack-home-gym#repChildCatid=580456


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6770892 05/22/17 02:56 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't waste my money on any <$3,500. Yes, insane, that's why I don't own one! It'd take 10 years of a gym membership to buy a decent cable set-up.


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Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Personally, I wouldn't waste my money on any <$3,500. Yes, insane, that's why I don't own one! It'd take 10 years of a gym membership to buy a decent cable set-up.
I agree. I would just get in a gym membership and use the crap out of theirs. But look at used machines. My pops and I use to run a family-owned gym here in town and we bought all of our equipment used...just put new cushions and padding on them, and some new paint finishings.

Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6771942 05/23/17 01:29 AM
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I looked at these in person again today. Pretty shotty equipment. Craigslist has had some deals from time to time. I'll keep lookin.


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6771977 05/23/17 01:43 AM
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Amazing. I found this one for $75 on CL. Its about 10 miles away. Going to pick it up tomorrow.

I've been looking for things to break and things to piss me off on CL for months. FOUND ONE. HA!



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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6772964 05/24/17 12:18 AM
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Cancel that. Craigslist guy sold it knowing I was picking it up tonight. Weird. Bummer.


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6774644 05/25/17 05:57 PM
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CL always has some listings for equipment. If you want to limit the 'footprint' of a piece of equipment look at SKLZ They usually run good deals and their equipment is commercial quality.


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6775574 05/26/17 04:21 PM
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Smith Machines and Cable Machines have their place but are the last pieces of equipment you should buy. If you have the room you only need a few pieces equipment to do almost everything you need.

Power/Squat Rack
Adjustable Bench
Bar and weights
Dumbbells


http://www.titan.fitness/cages-and-racks/titan-t-3-series-hd-power-rack-36-deep-combo-w-bench.html

Add some bands and a box and the possibilities are almost endless. You can even add a pulley to the pull up bar and make a pull down machine.

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Originally Posted By: huck18
Smith Machines and Cable Machines have their place but are the last pieces of equipment you should buy. If you have the room you only need a few pieces equipment to do almost everything you need.

Power/Squat Rack
Adjustable Bench
Bar and weights
Dumbbells


http://www.titan.fitness/cages-and-racks/titan-t-3-series-hd-power-rack-36-deep-combo-w-bench.html

Add some bands and a box and the possibilities are almost endless. You can even add a pulley to the pull up bar and make a pull down machine.


Agree with Huck here. Most 'Smith' machines and cable type equipment limit your range of motion (ROM). They work well in a controlled rehabilitation type setting where isolation may be needed but for everyday utilization and improved health/wellness you can decrease the dust catchers and laundry hangers by going minimal. Many tend to forget about body weight and gravity work as forms of resistance too. If you cannot move your own body weight against gravity or your own weight there is no reason to externally load. Simply asking for an injury....


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6775897 05/26/17 09:04 PM
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How do yall suggest I incorporate lateral tricep rope pull downs without a machine?


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Skull crushers, 2 armed behind the head upright presses, bent over kick backs, narrow grip flat bench, narrow handed push-ups. There's 5 great tricep exercises w/out a cable machine!


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6775931 05/26/17 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chickenman
How do yall suggest I incorporate lateral tricep rope pull downs without a machine?
Tricep extension with tubing

Chest press with tubing - closed chain tricep work

OR build your own

DIY pulley system for home use

It really depends on your goal and I failed to ask. What are you wanting to accomplish? Do you have any elbow/shoulder issues? You get more efficient work done if you incorporate multi joint movements as opposed to isolating a joint/muscle group. This is also safer and referred to as closed chain work vs open chain work. Squats are an example of closed chain. Leg extensions are an example of open chain work.

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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: Chickenman] #6777281 05/28/17 09:25 PM
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Made one. $26 I think. Welded the weight rack. Functional. Pretty cool.



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You have a basement? Lucky dog.


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Re: Smith/weight training machines [Re: LFD2037] #6777403 05/29/17 01:30 AM
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You have a basement? Lucky dog.


Better. Detached 2 floor 40x40ish shop complete with a recliner, TV, tools, pretty much whatever I can fit in there smile


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That's awesome! I like your improvisation on the cable set as well.


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Check out Powertec multi station gyms. They have faults, like most all multi gyms have. Mostly dealing with fixed range of motion using bench press. Add plates and dumbbells and you have a very capable setup. You can find these used pretty cheap at times. I've been pleased with mine.

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