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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: HWY72]
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05/23/17 02:58 PM
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krmitchell
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Respect and common sense are all that is required, but unfortunately they seem to be in short supply these days. Agreed.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/23/17 04:45 PM
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nate33
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10 quail hunters on OK lease,,, it is real simple ------- piss off the main guy and you are out--- normally he gives you one warning not to do "that" ( whatever "that " is) In the last 5 yrs he has kicked off 2 people, everyone else complys.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/27/17 01:22 AM
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bigjoe8565
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In this day and age written contracts that clearly outline the rules are a must.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/29/17 12:07 AM
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Tuff
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The fewer and simpler the rules the better. Be fair and firm. It takes most members 2 years to be fully vested in a good lease. But that doesnt mean you have to put up with unnecessary bull for 2 years. Replace the problem children at the first opportunity
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/29/17 10:34 PM
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tlk
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I have hunted for well over 50 years - both hill country inexpensive leases to high end south texas leases. As far as rules goes I discovered that like the rest of this world, 90% of folks do the right thing and the other 10% do not. Problem is that the 10% can ruin it for the others.
Biggest issues I have witnessed on leases:
No guest rules - family and guest are great on a lease until it infringes on the other paying members. Some members not only bring too many guest at one time but they often times do not control those guest.
Are you managing to improve the herd or are you just wanting to meat hunt? If the objective of the lease is to improve the herd via management then you have to have some guidelines on what can and cannot be shot.
Dividing a ranch into areas for each hunter. Not saying it cannot be done but I have seen many conflicts come up by having designated areas. People tend to become very protective of "their area". I have found that having open stands with first come first serve to cause less issues.
Finally - camp life - again as in life some will do their part while others do not. Some complain and gripe constantly. The main rule in camp is there is no drama. Life is full of drama every day so going to the deer lease to get away and then find drama is no good - do not put up with it.
So rules have to be designed IMO to fit the personality of the ranch, lease, and hunters.
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/30/17 01:56 AM
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Light Foot
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tik hit the nail on the head. Well said
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/30/17 03:02 AM
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OkieHunts.com
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Your free to borrow mine. Granted everyone has their own assigned property so no need to worry about vehicles coming and going. Their is a link you click to read them on the page. http://www.okiehunts.com/hunting-land/
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: OkieHunts.com]
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05/30/17 09:22 PM
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tlk
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Your free to borrow mine. Granted everyone has their own assigned property so no need to worry about vehicles coming and going. Their is a link you click to read them on the page. http://www.okiehunts.com/hunting-land/ Good set of rules - we have a good set of rules too and you had a few I had not thought of. PM me your email and I will send you ours. Similar to yours but some others that you may want to consider.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/30/17 09:41 PM
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Russ79
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Here is the problem I see with making all stands first come first served- the issue with some being protective of their area is the fact that some will put in more time than others at their area and don't want to share with someone that puts in just enough effort to be able to hunt. By this I mean that some like to hunt with a gun and some with a bow. Each has different elements to their area for hunting. Many bowhunters like to hunt the woods with no place to put a food plot. Others like big, open areas to gun hunt where food plots can be planted. Someone that spends several hundred dollars and many hours planting a food plot, because they like to do that sort of thing, may not want anyone that they perceive not as committed as they are to hunt over what they sweated over. That is why we have designated areas for each member and then set up a couple of community stands for others to share cost on. I understand that unless you are hunting several thousand acres the same deer are wandering thru all the areas, but it is human nature/mental thing about your own hunting area.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: Russ79]
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05/30/17 10:03 PM
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tlk
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Here is the problem I see with making all stands first come first served- the issue with some being protective of their area is the fact that some will put in more time than others at their area and don't want to share with someone that puts in just enough effort to be able to hunt. By this I mean that some like to hunt with a gun and some with a bow. Each has different elements to their area for hunting. Many bowhunters like to hunt the woods with no place to put a food plot. Others like big, open areas to gun hunt where food plots can be planted. Someone that spends several hundred dollars and many hours planting a food plot, because they like to do that sort of thing, may not want anyone that they perceive not as committed as they are to hunt over what they sweated over. That is why we have designated areas for each member and then set up a couple of community stands for others to share cost on. I understand that unless you are hunting several thousand acres the same deer are wandering thru all the areas, but it is human nature/mental thing about your own hunting area. I understand. We are on a large ranch plus our rancher maintains all feeders and pens and keeps them filled. Guess for me personally I would get tired of just hunting one area or one stand and seeing the same country and the same deer. Also it seems like if you had first come first serve the bow hunters would pick the areas they like and gun hunters would pick the areas they like but would have the option of moving around to different areas.
Last edited by tlk; 05/30/17 10:04 PM.
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Re: Lease Rules
[Re: jskin]
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05/30/17 11:24 PM
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PMK
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most places I have hunted, everyone had their own set up / location. most of the time, no one minded someone else hunting their stands but these were mostly meat leases. More recently, similar situation but everyone only hunts their own area until after Thanksgiving, then most people are more open for others to hunt their stands (typically most have taken their trophy by then, and it's hunting culls and does).
keeping rules simple but straightforward seems to be easiest for most to comply and grasp.
"everyone that lives dies but not everyone who dies lived..."
~PMK~
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