Love my 7mm-08.

Case geometry is why there are fewer options for 6.5 Creedmoor. Due to its geometry, it is easy to make it shoot.

7mm-08 not so much. I can even make my custom built 7mm-08 shoot "poorly".

What's the twist rate, what's the barrel length, what do you want the rifle to do, and how far away? Those things should lead you to one ammo box or another.

You need to know Basspro sucks. A quick search at MidwayUSA shows 14 Creedmoor loads in stock vs 19 in stock for the 7-08. Pretty even. Other than that, refer to what FJG asked about twist, purpose, etc.

Hunting. I only shoot at targets to sight in my rifle. Looking at Winchester Model 70, either Featherweight or Super Grade. 7mm-08 has a twist rate of 9.5 for both. If I stick with 270 it is 10. I bought my son a Featherweight 270 a few years ago and it is very consistent.

I have some reservations about the saw. His velocities are very high vs what a normal 7mm-08 is and case capacity is only increased a small amount. I would be nervous running it until I did some water tests. That being said wto builds some good shooting guns.

The 6.5 Creedmoor doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't do anything that my 6.5x55 won't do except be chambered in a short action and I could care less about having a short action vs a long action. I don't target shoot either. I can also push a bullet faster with my 6.5x55 than I can with a 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm not knocking the Creedmoor, it just doesnt make me feel all tingly in my no-no place.

I'll take a 7mm-08 over a 6.5 Creedmoor but I'll take a 7x57 over a 7mm-08, especially if it is stamped .275 Rigby. .275 Rigby has a cool factor that is off the charts.

6.5 creedmore is cheaper right now than 7mm-08.

Only downside to the old guys there are if chamber in an old action pressure has to be kept low. If in a new action they can be potent. I know a guy running a modded 6.5x55 that is blown out with a 30° shoulder and calls it a swedemoor. Runs in several aftermarket short actions with a 2.90 coal.

Mine is a modern action - CZ 550 American.

Hey Boo, I reconize the 275 Rigby. One so marked lives in the safe. Modern strong action though since it is a Ruger No. 1 International

didn't the 6.5 cm come out in 2007?

You are a man of understated dignity and taste then.

IMHO, training and experience trumps any caliber debate. Get some shooting time under your belt and you wont be so caught up in the minutia of caliber choices. As JG said, "It aint the arrow, its the Indian"

If you do the 7mm-08 in Ackley improved can you use the same dies or do you need different dies and is everything else the same?
[FiremanJG] I shoot both, weekly, literally. And shoot both to 800 yards. If I had to pick only one short action cartridge to use forever, it would be the 7mm-08, but I am a hand loader. I can, and have made brass from .243, .260 Rem, and .308 Win. It runs on H-Varget, which hasn't been too hard to get the last 24 months. Give it a 24"-25" barrel, and it'll sure deliver some foot pounds with a 162 gr bullet. Plus the wind drift, inside a thousand yards, matches my 6.5 Creedmoor. If a guy wanted a short action to get into extreme range shooting (beyond 1k) it would be tough to beat, especially when it has been Ackley Improved (which I am likely to do on the next barrel) That leads to Tony's 100% correct statement, that case geometry matters.

If I weren't a hand loader, the 6.5 Creedmoor is the clear answer. [/quote]

When compared only to the 7mm-08, I think it comes down to four main points.

1.) 6.5 Creedmoor is the "new thing."

2.)Recoil is about the same for both rounds.

3.) 6.5 mm projectiles have a very good ballistic coefficient across a wide range of projectile weights and an inherent accuracy that makes rifles chambered in 6.5 creedmoor seem less "picky" about the projectile and load being used. This in turn allows people who do not hand load to more easily find hand load accuracy without all the time and equipment.

4.) Because of 1 and 3 a lot of companies are chambering a variety of rifles for it and a lot of companies are manufacturing a large variety of ammo for it.

Not reloading would be the only reason I'd choose a 6.5CM over a 7-08.

I have two 6.5x55s so I don't understand the Creedmoor hype. To me, it's a great marketing job. They finally managed to mainstream the 6.5 caliber in America. The Swedes already knew it was great over 100 years ago. America has been slower to catch on to the 6.5s but it's clearly here to stay which is great. More terrific bullets are being brought to market for all the 6.5 users who were around prior to the Creedmoor.

The creedmoor by nature has a very low ES. Hornady has been extremely good at producing match quality OTC Ammo for the creedmoor. Something that not too many cartridges/ammo design/MFG's can say.


Sometimes having 5 MFG's all making ammo for a cartridge isn't as good as one that just does it right every time.


With that said both are great calibers.

What length action are your 6.5x55 built on for one, and two match quality ammo is very appealing to a lot of people. Third the chambering makes a lot of builders look like gods, it's a very consistent package

Exactly.

Ten minutes ago, I put a 6.5 X 55 up next to a .260 case, quite a bit longer than 260 Rem. That looses bullet seating out ability. A guy had better be a hand loader with a 6.5 X 55. If he is, it'll do great things, provided he doesn't have a ton of free-bore. If a guy isn't a hand loader, the 6.5 Creedmoor will surely impress him, with factory ammo offerings.

yes. The Creedmoor turns mortals in to gods. It has the most cow bell of any modern cartridge. You win.

You're right!!!! it's not the go to caliber that every new smith/builder starts building in high numbers first!!! Like I said before it's a very efficient cartridge that is not unruly or sensitive, unlike your self. Apparently it's not hard to turn out a < .5moa creedmoor using OTC ammo

No body said it was the Bee knees but find it halrious your get your panties in a wad because you think an early 1900's design built as a slower twist, lower pressure rated, caliber using blunt 156 bullets is the Bees knees.

Hummm a modern cartridge designed around modern components or a model T ford retrofitted with new BFG AT KO tires?

I actually like my 6.5-284 a touch better to even with my Creeds. But then again that would be more of an appropriate comparison to the 6.5X55 since they are LA with modern components, unfortunately can't really compare those two either since 6.5x55 comes up little light on case capacity.....

Yes my panties are wadded up in the corner because your hurt my lil feelings so much. Get over yourself. You are a god, you shouldn't care what us mortals think.