I am beginning to think ARM CHAIR HUNTERS KNOW IT ALL

How many hogs have you got from your armchair? Pretty much everyone else in this thread are experienced hunters with documented hunting histories.

I am sure Hornady would recommend the 77 gr ELD Match over the 50 gr. V-Max. I would as well. A bigger bullet with a much higher sectional density is going to work better. A .22 lr is better than a .17 hmr for hogs as well, but that doesn't mean either is a great choice.

So you are impressed with the guide that shoots a 50 gr. V-Max in 22-250? Are YOU shooting 22-250? Sounds like you would be shooting a plain old .223 and so getting 500 fps less velocity or so. HUGE difference.

Ill echo this^^^

With blinds and feeders, good rests, stationary game, and known distances little guns do big things with exacting shot placement. When conditions aren't perfect its a different ball game.

I went out after hogs late yesterday. I had seen a big black one on my hay field a week ago. He was running at a lope at 300 yards, so my chances were slim. All I did with the shot was to get him into a fairly impressive overdrive. So, I gave him a week to calm down. Here he came out of the woods at 6:30ish. Maybe 80 yard shot. He was walking slow till the crosshairs got on him and then he starts to trot. Dang it. So I popped him behind the shoulder with the 260. He stumbled, wobbled, fell, got back up and took off, going straight away. I planted the next one in his discharge chute and down he went. Almost got back up, but finally went quiet.

So...my point is that these are tough critters that don't go down easy, and rarely ever stand still to give me that 'behind the ear shot' that some folks always get, talk about, and suggest. I used to hunt with my 223 and the 220, but it was hard to anchor them. Shots were from 75 yards to 400 yards. I parked the 223 and 220 in the gun safe, and went to the 260 and 100 and 120 gr bullets. Now I feel confident, and I have been effective. Shot a real big one at 225 yards a few weeks back. He was trotting, as always. So, behind the shoulder went the bullet.

Maybe if the small pigs come to a corn feeder, I'll get that standing shot. I'd feel ok with the 223 then.

How many hogs have you got from your armchair? Pretty much everyone else in this thread are experienced hunters with documented hunting histories.

I am sure Hornady would recommend the 77 gr ELD Match over the 50 gr. V-Max. I would as well. A bigger bullet with a much higher sectional density is going to work better. A .22 lr is better than a .17 hmr for hogs as well, but that doesn't mean either is a great choice.

So you are impressed with the guide that shoots a 50 gr. V-Max in 22-250? Are YOU shooting 22-250? Sounds like you would be shooting a plain old .223 and so getting 500 fps less velocity or so. HUGE difference.

How many hogs have you got from your armchair? Pretty much everyone else in this thread are experienced hunters with documented hunting histories.

I am sure Hornady would recommend the 77 gr ELD Match over the 50 gr. V-Max. I would as well. A bigger bullet with a much higher sectional density is going to work better. A .22 lr is better than a .17 hmr for hogs as well, but that doesn't mean either is a great choice.

So you are impressed with the guide that shoots a 50 gr. V-Max in 22-250? Are YOU shooting 22-250? Sounds like you would be shooting a plain old .223 and so getting 500 fps less velocity or so. HUGE difference.

Good grief! Just buy a box of those 73 gr match bullets and go hunting. Quit listening to the voice of reason (us).

NO, match ammo is not what you want for good penetration. If you are shoulder shooting hogs, you want good penetration.

Double Naught Spy

Let me ask you this one,,,, if you have 50 cal black powder lead ball, a 30-06 fmj and a 223 fmj in what order will these 3 rounds penetrate the best in standing water ?

Good grief! Just buy a box of those 73 gr match bullets and go hunting. Quit listening to the voice of reason (us).

Take DNS's advice, it mirrors my experience with match bullets. I had poor performance from the 75 BTHP match, it shoots itty biddy groups on paper, but not so good on game.

I have been having issues with 223 period. It seemed OK in the daytime with a precision shot, but hunting after dark is causing more marginal hits and lost hogs. I am going to shoot up the rest of my 60gr Nosler Partitions and then think about a barrel swap to a 6.5 or larger cal.

FYI Not many keyboard hunters in this sub forum. I would imaging that the regular posters here have removed thousands of hogs. I have been taking quite a few each year the past 12-15 years with more each year. I love the 223, but my 300BLK seems to kill them better.



Based on his beaver hunts he knows about shooting in the water too....