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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 10:19 PM
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I don't know why anyone would care about the gun. I've done it, a few times out of convenience. I think hunters start looking sideways at guys that talk, dress and act like they're on a SWAT deployment rather than the deer hunt they're on. We had some guys visit us at our lease from another lease that were all dressed up like this. My hunting buddy that was a Marine sniper referred to them as Tactifools.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 10:40 PM
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Because they didn't act and dress like y'all did?
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 10:44 PM
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It's a perception issue. Perception is that the AR hunter is just carrying an AR because he wants to look cool, and is using a gun that does not have any legitimate use in the woods. BTW, the previous sentence is NOT my viewpoint.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 10:47 PM
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And that sounded wrong... He aims for the base of the neck.. A miss left is still neck and spine. same with a miss right is vitals and spine. Its about show placement and the round used. No FMJ on those shots.
A shot to the lungs with a .233 is deadly yess but small blood trail and may not find them if they dont drop right away. Neck shot they have dropped every time for him.
But I don;t like those shots or that round. Just saying what he uses.
I prefer a hear or double lung with a .308.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:13 PM
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It's a perception issue. Perception is that the AR hunter is just carrying an AR because he wants to look cool, and is using a gun that does not have any legitimate use in the woods. BTW, the previous sentence is NOT my viewpoint. Right. It's the whole judge a book by its cover thing.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:15 PM
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It's a perception issue. Perception is that the AR hunter is just carrying an AR because he wants to look cool, and is using a gun that does not have any legitimate use in the woods. BTW, the previous sentence is NOT my viewpoint. Right. It's the whole judge a book by its cover thing. that's the way I see it. People are closed minded and bc their buddy told them a story that their buddy told them about guys who hunt with an AR then all guys who hunt with an AR must be the same
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:19 PM
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And that sounded wrong... He aims for the base of the neck.. A miss left is still neck and spine. same with a miss right is vitals and spine. Its about show placement and the round used. No FMJ on those shots.
A shot to the lungs with a .233 is deadly yess but small blood trail and may not find them if they dont drop right away. Neck shot they have dropped every time for him.
But I don;t like those shots or that round. Just saying what he uses.
I prefer a hear or double lung with a .308. And it still sounds wrong. I'm not picking on you, by the way. I'm trying to prove that a shot like that doesn't exist. All we can do is pick a shot that gives us the most confidence. For most of us, that is a shot with the largest margin of error. Regardless of where you aim, a miss can result in a wounded deer. Period. The base of the skull is no different, except that it has a very small margin. Just a few inches off can clip any number of areas that are non fatal. That's not to say he is wrong in choosing that shot. He's just wrong in claiming it's fail proof.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:25 PM
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It's a perception issue. Perception is that the AR hunter is just carrying an AR because he wants to look cool, and is using a gun that does not have any legitimate use in the woods. BTW, the previous sentence is NOT my viewpoint. Right. It's the whole judge a book by its cover thing. that's the way I see it. People are closed minded and bc their buddy told them a story that their buddy told them about guys who hunt with an AR then all guys who hunt with an AR must be the same I've hunted with guys that were dressed to the hilt with tactical gear, AR, and sidearm strapped to their leg. They literally looked ready to take down Bin Laden. Here I was in my work clothes and .243. I didn't think too much of it, other than they'd be better prepared for a big group of pigs than I would. All I know is that we had a pretty great time hunting together.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:27 PM
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That's my point but people are so hard headed they will always find a reason to complain or hate on another person just bc they dress different, like different music, or shoot a different style weapon.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:33 PM
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I wouldn't ever hate someone for the music they listen to, but crank up some modern country, and I'm gonna look at you funny.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/07/17 11:38 PM
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I wouldn't ever hate someone for the music they listen to, but crank up some modern country, and I'm gonna look at you funny.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 12:08 AM
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Because they didn't act and dress like y'all did? No, he referred to them as Tactifools based on his own experience compared their complete lack of tactical experience, while dressing, acting and talking as if they did. (as stated in my post)
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 12:20 AM
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That was not stated, at least not clearly.
Maybe they were, though. Those types are certainly out there.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 12:39 AM
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That was not stated, at least not clearly.
Maybe they were, though. Those types are certainly out there. Maybe you were a little quick on the shock collar remote. It's there, have a cold one and read it again.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 01:01 AM
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I did reread it. You mentioned it, but not in clear relation to the tactical guys spoken of. I didn't want to assume. That's why I asked. You cleared it up. No big deal.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 01:39 PM
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Just traded off my last AR and hopefully that will be the end of it, they never felt right and I never was comfortable with them.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 06:11 PM
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Just traded off my last AR and hopefully that will be the end of it, they never felt right and I never was comfortable with them. They really are not made for midgets, just sayin
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 06:54 PM
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I debated on taking with me this year but I am a guest and a friend lets me hunt on his lease so I ended up not taking it not sure how they would feel about it. Personally I feel more comfortable with my ar it has a better trigger in it and the pistol grip makes it more stable. As far as people talking about the tactical guys carrying a pistol I carry mine with me but I keep it concealed it's habit. Plus this year while dove hunting had a huge group of pigs show up and if I had my pistol with me could have gotten at least one.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/08/17 11:03 PM
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Just traded off my last AR and hopefully that will be the end of it, they never felt right and I never was comfortable with them. They really are not made for midgets, just sayin Don't you have doughnut shop to raid, or a little old lady to harass?
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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03/02/17 07:52 PM
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It's a perception issue. Perception is that the AR hunter is just carrying an AR because he wants to look cool, and is using a gun that does not have any legitimate use in the woods. BTW, the previous sentence is NOT my viewpoint. Right. It's the whole judge a book by its cover thing. that's the way I see it. People are closed minded and bc their buddy told them a story that their buddy told them about guys who hunt with an AR then all guys who hunt with an AR must be the same I've hunted with guys that were dressed to the hilt with tactical gear, AR, and sidearm strapped to their leg. They literally looked ready to take down Bin Laden. Here I was in my work clothes and .243. I didn't think too much of it, other than they'd be better prepared for a big group of pigs than I would. All I know is that we had a pretty great time hunting together. I had a great time hunting with you and the other Jared too In my defense I had never been on a South Texas "blind hunt" before. Most of all the hunting I had done before was all hiking in 2-6 miles and actually needing camo . Multicam works just as good realtree and much cheaper if you buy surplus. I didn't know they had a taxi service to take you from camp to the entirely enclosed blind and back to camp. Hell I could have worn my pajamas and it wouldn't have mattered.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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03/02/17 08:11 PM
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.... they're usually heavy. I ditched a R.E.P.R. for that very reason. I could be wrong, but the impression I get is on a factory build, match grade barrels and boat anchors go hand in hand.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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03/02/17 10:37 PM
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I have both styles of rifles...I now prefer my DPMS Panther .308 because I severely shattered my right wrist about 5 years ago...after a full year to recover only have about 85% of my range of motion. Lever actions are no longer an option for me. Most standard rifles and shotguns are a challenge due to the grip angle. My 870 12 gage now has an adjustable stock with a pistol grip. Having spent 4+ years army infantry makes the AR platform a better fit for me. Ultimately its nothing more than a personal preference....whatever you can control and be most accurate with is what counts.... Use what you like and don't give a flip what others think about it.......
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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I had a great time hunting with you and the other Jared too In my defense I had never been on a South Texas "blind hunt" before. Most of all the hunting I had done before was all hiking in 2-6 miles and actually needing camo . Multicam works just as good realtree and much cheaper if you buy surplus. I didn't know they had a taxi service to take you from camp to the entirely enclosed blind and back to camp. Hell I could have worn my pajamas and it wouldn't have mattered. That was a new kind of hunt for me, too. I thought maybe y'all knew something we didn't.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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03/02/17 11:24 PM
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Men who complain about an AR10 being too heavy make me question their manliness
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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Men who complain about an AR10 being too heavy make me question their manliness Call me a girly man then, big boy! I love my M&P-10 but XD50, DVR, 10 round mag walking around doing some spot and stalk... it gets heavy! It's even heavier now that I picked up a .223 AR that weighs almost nothing. Wouldn't trade it for anything though.
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