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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: Grego] #6614364 01/03/17 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Grego
He made a mistake, yes.
He paid the ultimate price, no real need for name calling at this point.

Any man willing to spend time outdoors with his children has my respect, but discretion is something this game does require, and even when exercised bad things happen.

From the Lake house we send our sincerest condolences and best wishes.


In this case, name calling appropriate- you are supposed to protect your children- not endanger them


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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614413 01/03/17 07:00 PM
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Very bad deal here, said the family is from Quinlan but no TX numbers on the boat, first letters are IA, wonder if they are new to the area.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614416 01/03/17 07:03 PM
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Just yesterday as we were doing probably 40 mph across the lake I thought to myself, "WTF don't either of us have a life jacket on"? I think I am going to go drop some serious money on two good life jackets for my wife and I and be done with it. I might even go with the kind that pop when you hit water.

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Originally Posted By: wal1809
I think I am going to go drop some serious money on two good life jackets for my wife and I and be done with it. I might even go with the kind that pop when you hit water.

That's the kind I got. It is a LOT easier to put on over a heavy jacket.


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Prayers up.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: LarryCopper] #6614474 01/03/17 07:25 PM
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I think I am going to go drop some serious money on two good life jackets for my wife and I and be done with it. I might even go with the kind that pop when you hit water.

That's the kind I got. It is a LOT easier to put on over a heavy jacket.


this is what we use as well.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614516 01/03/17 07:44 PM
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This is so sad. My heart goes out to the 5 year old and his mother. So many "what if's" here but if the boy had no pfd on the dad messed up. Hell my wife would have never let me take any of our 3 boys when they were 5 knowing a storm like that was coming. I'd like to know were they in route to their spot...anchored in deeper water and waiting on shooting light? If they were on the water at 5:45 why did it take so long to get to their hunt area? Were they "scouting" for a spot to set up on when the storm hit? The dog made it...was it wearing a dog jacket? The boy had no chance I would imagine and I bet the dad lost his life trying to find his son in all that hell.

Just so senseless.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: LarryCopper] #6614528 01/03/17 07:55 PM
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I think I am going to go drop some serious money on two good life jackets for my wife and I and be done with it. I might even go with the kind that pop when you hit water.

That's the kind I got. It is a LOT easier to put on over a heavy jacket.


Let me know a brand and where to get them if you would please. That is it, we are going to do it as of as soon as the mail guy brings them. I have a life long friend whom I have hunted and fished with every year. We have a group that goes fishing in Port Mansfield for a week. On this trip I was not along. Another friend brought his son who got off in the channel and was not doing good at all. His dad went in to help him. Within minutes they were both in serious bad trouble. My best friend just happened to see them down the channel and thought they were having trouble. By the time he got to his boat and over there, (From the dad to my ears) he said he had one more shot at swimming under his son and pushing him up out of the water, he was going to give it up after that. His son was already unconscious. My bud got them on the boat and started CPR on the young man, my buddy couldn't speak he was so worn out. Other boats arrived and they lit a shuck to town while doing CPR. As they arrived in Port Mans they got the kid back. Being in the job that I do for as long as I have, I know the chance of saving someone with CPR is extremely low. So my friend (the life saver) makes his kids wear them on his boat and when they are wade fishing. Screw it, today is the day, the law is getting laid down on my boats.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614539 01/03/17 08:03 PM
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Prayers up for the Family and Friends.

As to what happened with them only they know and that secret died with them.

Lets all take it as a reminder to make good decisions and try not to put ourselves or loved ones at risk.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: wal1809] #6614551 01/03/17 08:13 PM
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I think I am going to go drop some serious money on two good life jackets for my wife and I and be done with it. I might even go with the kind that pop when you hit water.

That's the kind I got. It is a LOT easier to put on over a heavy jacket.


Let me know a brand and where to get them if you would please. That is it, we are going to do it as of as soon as the mail guy brings them. I have a life long friend whom I have hunted and fished with every year. We have a group that goes fishing in Port Mansfield for a week. On this trip I was not along. Another friend brought his son who got off in the channel and was not doing good at all. His dad went in to help him. Within minutes they were both in serious bad trouble. My best friend just happened to see them down the channel and thought they were having trouble. By the time he got to his boat and over there, (From the dad to my ears) he said he had one more shot at swimming under his son and pushing him up out of the water, he was going to give it up after that. His son was already unconscious. My bud got them on the boat and started CPR on the young man, my buddy couldn't speak he was so worn out. Other boats arrived and they lit a shuck to town while doing CPR. As they arrived in Port Mans they got the kid back. Being in the job that I do for as long as I have, I know the chance of saving someone with CPR is extremely low. So my friend (the life saver) makes his kids wear them on his boat and when they are wade fishing. Screw it, today is the day, the law is getting laid down on my boats.

There was a story a few years back about a guy out of LA that was on the way out with his 10 yr old son on Lake Pontchartrain. Hit a stump or something, got thrown into the boat so he was knocked out, and both ended up thrown overboard. Long story short the kid tried to save his dad but couldn't hold on to him and the boat so he had to let his dad go. Tore my heart out... been wearing a PFD every time since.

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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614564 01/03/17 08:23 PM
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Larry I remember that story. Continuing on the way we have in the past is just not going to happen. We had an accident on my boat so bad I nearly lost my wife. Under power she caught a rope in the mouth that broke her upper jaw from the k9 teeth up between the eyes. It ripped her cheeks on both sides in 5 different places and tore off a 3rd of her upper lip. After 13 years worth of surgery you would not know it unless I pointed it out. That was horrific. God looks out for us. We were on Padre Island north of town in the bay. Padre doesn't have a hospital so I had to drive her to Brownsville. The doctor said to me "I can't help her". They loaded her on an ambulance and took her to Harlingen. It just so happened there was a surgical convention. The best facial reconstruction surgeon was a guest speaker. They consulted him and he dropped what he was doing. 14 hours later he had her back together. When she came off that boat she was under water and out of site before I could turn around. She was out unconscious. I jumped in to follow the boat trail to find her. She popped up right in front of me as I got to her. Things go bad in seconds. Yep its time.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614571 01/03/17 08:28 PM
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I use the Mustang brand inflatable PFDs. I think Academy carries them and also the inflater cartridges that need to be changed out every couple of years.

http://www.mustangsurvival.com/?country=25

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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: BDB] #6614578 01/03/17 08:30 PM
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This is so sad. My heart goes out to the 5 year old and his mother. So many "what if's" here but if the boy had no pfd on the dad messed up. Hell my wife would have never let me take any of our 3 boys when they were 5 knowing a storm like that was coming. I'd like to know were they in route to their spot...anchored in deeper water and waiting on shooting light? If they were on the water at 5:45 why did it take so long to get to their hunt area? Were they "scouting" for a spot to set up on when the storm hit? The dog made it...was it wearing a dog jacket? The boy had no chance I would imagine and I bet the dad lost his life trying to find his son in all that hell.

Just so senseless.


At Twok you have to be within 100' of the shoreline to hunt. No anchoring out in open water. It's been a long time since I've been up on that end of the lake but I remember that cove being fairly shallow (with the lake at the level it is right now) - especially within 100' from shore. I would assume they were trying to make it to their spot. That whole area is a stump field. From the pictures I've seen of the boat it appears to be a 12' alumacraft with a 5hp or smaller motor on it - with a trolling motor up front. Add in a dog, a kid, and a couple dozen decoys and that thing is overloaded even on a normal day in big water.

I'm guessing they were probably in the middle of the cove based on what my weather station was recording on wind directions. It would make sense with where they were found (based on where the dog was found). I don't believe the dog had a vest on from every report I've seen (the people who found the dog). The boat and both bodies were recovered in the general area where the dog was staying / trying to swim out to.

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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: FowlDreams] #6614654 01/03/17 09:19 PM
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The boy wasn't wearing a life vest. The dog lead the gw to the bodies. I grew up here on lake tawakoni. And this lake ain't no joke when it comes to weather. I don't understand why risk your life or put your family in danger

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We have all done stupid things, especially at 25 years old. Certainly he didn't know or feel he was going out to die with his son. He didn't get a warning shot like me and dozens of us on this board. He made a horrible call and he and his little boy paid a heavy toll. I did worse than than that in my early 20s. I used to run the Navasota in a 14 footer with a 5 horse motor when it flooded. I would put in off the highway and follow the river upstream. It was a hairy three hour trip to get to the place I hunted. I have dodged whole rolling oak trees coming down river. It would have taken a total of one of those rolling oaks to end our lives right then and there. Now I am more into talking to the landowner that owns the place I used to hunt years ago and parking at the house and walking into the flooded timber.

Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: wal1809] #6614733 01/03/17 09:56 PM
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We have all done stupid things, especially at 25 years old.


I'm sorry Wal but putting a 5 year old kid in a 12' boat without a life jacket on, in the dark, with an oncoming storm is way more than "doing something stupid at 25."

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We have all done stupid things, especially at 25 years old.


I'm sorry Wal but putting a 5 year old kid in a 12' boat without a life jacket on, in the dark, with an oncoming storm is way more than "doing something stupid at 25."


I agree it was bad. I mean how can one argue with that, he is dead now so there is no arguing. I am just damn glad I had bad things happen that opened my eyes and didn't kill me. The biggest eye opener I got was the Darrel Lundsford video tape. He was an officer in East Texas that filmed his own murder. His family allowed the FBI to be released to Officers as a training aid. It woke me up and made me sick to my stomach. We really had no training like that back then. There is no doubt in my mind that tape saved lives.

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Originally Posted By: Grego
He made a mistake, yes.
He paid the ultimate price, no real need for name calling at this point.

Any man willing to spend time outdoors with his children has my respect, but discretion is something this game does require, and even when exercised bad things happen.

From the Lake house we send our sincerest condolences and best wishes.

It wasn't name calling.....too late for him and his son....those comments were directed to the rest of us....


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Re: Missing father/son on Tawakoni [Re: LarryCopper] #6614909 01/03/17 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: LarryCopper
If 52" around the chest will work for ya, this is a good deal!
Cabela's inflatable PFD

I bought one of those and took it back. I didn't trust it. If I remember correctly had to like baby it, store it a curtain way, etc... I just like the regular life vest I know won't fail me. I want to get a new one with pockets on it I can put my cell phone in.

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Originally Posted By: LarryCopper
I was gonna go out thinking that I would wait at the ramp until after the storm came through. When I got up and saw the radar I thought the timing wouldn't work so I didn't go. I NEVER go out without a PFD tho, I know how things can turn real quick for the worst.

X2 word for word. If it was just light green on the radar I might have gone, but when you see yellow orange and red, no way, I don't even want to drive my truck in that. And I sure as heck don't mess with lightning.

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sad deal
Been on the water when I shouldn't have in earlier days..

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We have all done stupid things, especially at 25 years old.


I'm sorry Wal but putting a 5 year old kid in a 12' boat without a life jacket on, in the dark, with an oncoming storm is way more than "doing something stupid at 25."


I agree it was bad. I mean how can one argue with that, he is dead now so there is no arguing. I am just damn glad I had bad things happen that opened my eyes and didn't kill me. The biggest eye opener I got was the Darrel Lundsford video tape. He was an officer in East Texas that filmed his own murder. His family allowed the FBI to be released to Officers as a training aid. It woke me up and made me sick to my stomach. We really had no training like that back then. There is no doubt in my mind that tape saved lives.


Darrell Sr. was a close family friend. His son was my classmate in a class of about 32. His grandson was an OL for the Houston Cougars and is now a DPS officer.


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