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Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: kmon11] #6524220 11/02/16 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: kmon1
To my thinking for describing a 2 stage trigger the first stage is a pre load on the trigger pull, in Jeffbirds example through the first stage you are loading the trigger finger with 1.5lbs then when the end of the first stage is reached you feel the added resistance of 1.5lbs of additional resistance but that acts much like a 1.5lb single stage trigger at through the release of the second stage.


Much better explanation, thank you Kmon.

Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: Texas Dan] #6524250 11/02/16 11:32 PM
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Thanks for kind words about my post, it seems OK but not outstanding to me. I wasn't clear about military style two-stage triggers not having the sear blocker like the blade-style two-stage triggers do, so they are not really as safe as the blade-style ones - but still more safe than a single-stage trigger would be.

Trigger safety is a relative thing, to me. My .223 has a one pound, single stage trigger and I never have a problem with it. - But it is a ten pound varminter, a range gun that I do not load up and then walk around with. - I single-load it at the bench in fact, so it is never loaded unless it is already safe for it to fire.

The most important safety item associated with triggers of course is the nut behind the trigger.

My favorite trigger of all is the double-set triggers that NEGC makes for the 98 Mauser action. - Four pounds or four ounces, depending upon whether you decide to pull the rear trigger to set the front one, or not.


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Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: Texas Dan] #6524524 11/03/16 01:35 AM
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I'm trying out a true two stage trigger on a rifle right now. It has two different stages and the weight is pre set on each from the factory to what I specified.While the trigger is a very safe trigger it has nothing to do with the design. The staged break triggers as I understand it, where designed to better predict when the shot will break. Some guys prefer not to be surprised by the shot. I have only shot mine a couple hundred rounds so not sure yet if I will buy more.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but the accutrigger is not a two stage trigger.



Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: Texas Dan] #6524605 11/03/16 02:14 AM
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You are absolutely correct. The AccuTrigger is a single stage trigger that has a lighter break than most factory triggers. In order to do this the lawyers made them put the center section in as a "safety device". At least that's how I see it.


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Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: Texas Dan] #6524935 11/03/16 09:56 AM
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Technically the Accutrigger is a singe-stage trigger with a sear blocker added. It is a good idea, whether the lawyers like it or not.

The end result though is a two-stage trigger, no matter how you slice it. There is an initial take-up, followed by a slightly harder pull that discharges the firearm.

Many do not like the blade, I've never had any problem with it.

I could do without the cutout on the blade on my Marlin .22lr bolt action's trigger - but that is a cosmetic issue.

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Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: charlesb] #6524939 11/03/16 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: charlesb

My favorite trigger of all is the double-set triggers that NEGC makes for the 98 Mauser action. - Four pounds or four ounces, depending upon whether you decide to pull the rear trigger to set the front one, or not.


That is clearly too much thinking for me.

Thanks again for enlightening us on these things.


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Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: Texas Dan] #6526724 11/04/16 01:32 PM
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I've really grown to like two-stage triggers from shooting my Garand (and other milsurp rifles). I shoot in CMP matches sometimes and the Garand is a dream to shoot. I had a buddy work on the trigger. It takes 3 lbs to pull through the first stage and then an addition 1.5 lbs for the final stage. It helps with matches I think. It's still safe (from needing 4.5 lbs to pull go "boom") but its still prone to accuracy.

Re: Two stage trigger - Pro's and Con's [Re: LandPirate] #6526733 11/04/16 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
I prefer single stage triggers. No take up, no creep, no travel. Just a given amount of pressure, a clean break and bang.


What he said

On a match rifle off a sandbagged bench rest. Perhaps, though I saw no benefit. For any other reason, particularly hunting, the trigger sucked (my experience).

2 stage triggers over-complicate what should be a very simple process.

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