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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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02/14/16 07:28 PM
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If what Jeff said is true, the kid is toast.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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02/14/16 07:59 PM
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Photo taken a few miles from my house, (I did not take photo). Love to hear them/see them flying overhead, but doesn't happen very often. They are few and far between. That is an awesome picture that is one rare photo!
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
[Re: krmitchell]
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Wonder if Whooping Crane tastes better than California Condor.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
[Re: krmitchell]
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This happened within about 30 miles of where I live. From what I have heard, he shot the cranes from a road on private property with a rifle after he was told they were whooping cranes. The story I got was he and a buddy saw them and he came back later and shot them. Supposedly, this isn't his first run in with game violations. There was no sandhill crane season open when this occurred. I don't know the kid but he has a reputation for this type of thing. I am not of the opinion that they should lock him up forever. However, I do think a little jail time (30 days maybe), loss of all hunting rights, and a very large fine would give him more respect for the law and the animals he enjoys poaching. From all accounts, the shooting of these cranes was not a mistake or an accident.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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02/15/16 02:31 PM
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It's acts like this that give hunting a bad name. This is not the pioneer days any more, and these guys that just keep shooting everything that moves need to be stopped. If we don't stop them, the anti-hunters will just keep gaining influence. I did a lot of stupid things when I was 18, so I don't want to see the kid's life messed up, but he did the crime, so he has to pay the price. Teach him a lesson.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
[Re: krmitchell]
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10/26/16 02:37 AM
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Did I hear that this guy got probation?
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 03:14 AM
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We as hunters are gradually slipping into the minority. Our beloved pastime is increasingly under attack from the non-hunting (majority) public. A public that looks at us a blood thirsty barbarians. These people were raised on Disney films that portray hunters as evil and cruel, destroying animal families. They make no distinction between poachers and sportsmen. We're all equally deranged and evil in their minds.
So this sort of thing reflects badly on all of us. Nothing we say or do can separate us from poachers in their minds. Perception is reality, period. So when a "hunter" commits such an act we should all denounce the behavior and support prosecution to fullest extent, lest we give more fodder to the anti's. This young man not only tarnished himself, but each of us, sadly.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 03:31 AM
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That is unfortunate. I recall reading some articles a few years ago about some poachers shooting deer out of season that lost their right to hunt for the rest of their lives.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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I feel like the last time someone shot a whooping crane the fine was like 80K or something ridiculously expensive.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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We as hunters are gradually slipping into the minority. Our beloved pastime is increasingly under attack from the non-hunting (majority) public. A public that looks at us a blood thirsty barbarians. These people were raised on Disney films that portray hunters as evil and cruel, destroying animal families. They make no distinction between poachers and sportsmen. We're all equally deranged and evil in their minds.
So this sort of thing reflects badly on all of us. Nothing we say or do can separate us from poachers in their minds. Perception is reality, period. So when a "hunter" commits such an act we should all denounce the behavior and support prosecution to fullest extent, lest we give more fodder to the anti's. This young man not only tarnished himself, but each of us, sadly. Schools should start teaching "Food Ed" classes similar to Sex Ed. Make them watch video of chickens, turkeys, cows, pigs, and sheep/lambs being processed at the slaughterhouse so they'll know where their Chicken McNuggets and Big Macs come from. I bet that'll stop some of the anti-hunter nonsense. lol..... probably be a hell of a lot more vegetarians too. And youth counseling.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
[Re: LandPirate]
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10/26/16 03:47 PM
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We as hunters are gradually slipping into the minority. Our beloved pastime is increasingly under attack from the non-hunting (majority) public. A public that looks at us a blood thirsty barbarians. These people were raised on Disney films that portray hunters as evil and cruel, destroying animal families. They make no distinction between poachers and sportsmen. We're all equally deranged and evil in their minds.
So this sort of thing reflects badly on all of us. Nothing we say or do can separate us from poachers in their minds. Perception is reality, period. So when a "hunter" commits such an act we should all denounce the behavior and support prosecution to fullest extent, lest we give more fodder to the anti's. This young man not only tarnished himself, but each of us, sadly. +1.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 04:03 PM
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In this one it says "A magistrate also ordered the 19-year-old Beaumont man to pay nearly $26,000 in restitution, barred Frederick from owning or possessing firearms or ammunition and prohibited him from hunting or fishing in the U.S. for the next five years." Odds are that he will be a repeat offender, likely during the probationary period.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 04:03 PM
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It doesn't matter. He killed two whooping cranes. He is going to pay the going price. The going price for killing two whooping cranes is high. The going price is not a secret. It has never been a secret.
Moral of this story: be d*** sure what you are shooting at before you shoot it. There is a great responsibility that comes with pulling the trigger.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 04:54 PM
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$$$$$ this one will cost. Sad deal for the whoopers +1. A $15,000 fine and 6 mos in Federal prison will make a deep impression on an 18-yr-old. That said, the maximum sentence appears too lenient to me. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. RIP, Dawaba....Miss you, bud.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
[Re: krmitchell]
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10/26/16 09:27 PM
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My gut tells me he won't learn a lesson, and with his history he will be right back at it!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/26/16 09:33 PM
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/28/16 12:29 PM
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$$$$$ this one will cost. Sad deal for the whoopers +1. A $15,000 fine and 6 mos in Federal prison will make a deep impression on an 18-yr-old. That said, the maximum sentence appears too lenient to me. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I think 6 months of a mans life for killing two birds is ridiculous. Endangered or not they're still just birds. Agreed I agree...ASSUMING...that it was somehow accidental as in mistaking them for a Sandhill crane or something. The guy is 18 and I think must of us at that age did some pretty stupid things. So yes he need to pay but that price is too high to me and when the justice system refuses to acknowledge circumstances in giving out sentences it's no longer "justice". Animals are animals...we've got people killing people getting off with less.
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/28/16 12:31 PM
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This happened within about 30 miles of where I live. From what I have heard, he shot the cranes from a road on private property with a rifle after he was told they were whooping cranes. The story I got was he and a buddy saw them and he came back later and shot them. Supposedly, this isn't his first run in with game violations. There was no sandhill crane season open when this occurred. I don't know the kid but he has a reputation for this type of thing. I am not of the opinion that they should lock him up forever. However, I do think a little jail time (30 days maybe), loss of all hunting rights, and a very large fine would give him more respect for the law and the animals he enjoys poaching. From all accounts, the shooting of these cranes was not a mistake or an accident. If this is true they need to throw the book at him! It's one thing if it's accidental...it's another thing if it's deliberate!
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/30/16 01:43 PM
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If it was accidental I agree completely, in other words thought it was a Sandhill etc... I have tried to come up with a reasonable explanation for accidentally shooting a Whooper and come up blank. There's just no excuse!
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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10/30/16 02:19 PM
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We as hunters are gradually slipping into the minority. Our beloved pastime is increasingly under attack from the non-hunting (majority) public. A public that looks at us a blood thirsty barbarians. These people were raised on Disney films that portray hunters as evil and cruel, destroying animal families. They make no distinction between poachers and sportsmen. We're all equally deranged and evil in their minds.
So this sort of thing reflects badly on all of us. Nothing we say or do can separate us from poachers in their minds. Perception is reality, period. So when a "hunter" commits such an act we should all denounce the behavior and support prosecution to fullest extent, lest we give more fodder to the anti's. This young man not only tarnished himself, but each of us, sadly. Bingo! I'm really saddened to find so many younger "hunters" (and a few older ones) these days who exude an attitude that manifests itself as "Gotta Shoot Something".
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Re: 2 More Whooping Cranes shot?
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We as hunters are gradually slipping into the minority. Our beloved pastime is increasingly under attack from the non-hunting (majority) public. A public that looks at us a blood thirsty barbarians. These people were raised on Disney films that portray hunters as evil and cruel, destroying animal families. They make no distinction between poachers and sportsmen. We're all equally deranged and evil in their minds.
So this sort of thing reflects badly on all of us. Nothing we say or do can separate us from poachers in their minds. Perception is reality, period. So when a " hunter " commits such an act we should all denounce the behavior and support prosecution to fullest extent, lest we give more fodder to the anti's. This young man not only tarnished himself, but each of us, sadly. Bingo! I'm really saddened to find so many younger "hunters" (and a few older ones) these days who exude an attitude that manifests itself as "Gotta Shoot Something". hunter is a key word...
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