I doubt that you would even find him much less"Run Him".

It will be a cold day in hell when TPWS gets the power to take down privately owned fence. It will be another cold day when they can regulate game other than WT on private property.If TPWS did not like HF they would have never started Captive breeding. All you HF haters better hope that day never comes because things have then gone to "Hell in a hand basket"

Some interesting comments.

Do any of the anti-HF proponents on this post feel that this situation described above also falls into the standard HF argument and that any hunting on those estates is wrong/unethical and not fair chase? Or is it acceptable since these are native deer trapped in a high fence that was erected for privacy reasons and not specifically to contain the deer that are inside.

I don't think that its necessarily wrong/unethical, however, I do know that its not fair chase.

So sitting in a blind waiting for a deer to come eat corn then bushwacking it is fair chase? And if you think an animal cannot run 1 or 2 minutes without hitting a fence on my place you are seriously mistaken. You are not one of those that cries when the neighbor shoots one of "Your Deer" are you?

Agreed. The whole country side is going to be one giant grid of high fences. The only real "wildlife" are going to be those with wings and others that can squeeze through net fences (and not get caught in a snare).

Folks talk about how hard it is to hunt an animal in 250 acre HF....."it is the principal of the matter." The whole point is running an animal around in 250 acres trying to kill it in the first place. Why anyone wants to do that I just don't get.

So sitting in a blind waiting for a deer to come eat corn then bushwacking it is fair chase? And if you think an animal cannot run 1 or 2 minutes without hitting a fence on my place you are seriously mistaken. You are not one of those that cries when the neighbor shoots one of "Your Deer" are you?

Most HF hunters if I were standing by them in their trophy room looking at a huge buck and I asked. "Did you Hunt that deer or Buy it?" Would have to answer, "I bought it."
At least that is my story and I'm sticking to it.

I think the idea fair chase is all a matter of opinion. Is upland hunting on horseback/ATV/UTV with a pack of 15 dogs fair chase to the birds you're after, or would it be more sporting to simply walk in with no dogs to do the work for you? Same can be said for hogs, is it really fair chase to let 20 catahoulas range out to bay the bigs then walk up and send in a catch dog or is it more sporting to spot and stalk hogs yourself. In parts of the country using deer dogs for driven hunts could be considered fair chase, but is this really fair for the animals. Does it really matter? In my opinion there is no difference HF hunting than fishing in a smaller reservoir for the end user. Different strokes for different folks.

I think high fencing has an important role in the economy of hunting by creating value in natural landscapes. I would much rather see a 5000 acre HF game ranch offering canned hunts vs a new housing development. I would also rather see canned hunts than a large corporate mono-culture modern farming operation.

The operator of a HF must be much more cognizant in managing his land/animals than someone who has a low fence ranch. I don't find HF guys to be less lazy simply because you can't be lazy. There is so much more management and work that go into a HF ranch than low fence simply because you have to make sure the habitat is right for your animals since they can't just leave.

I would love to one day run 'canned' hunts for deep pocketed customers. But this is mainly because I love working out in the outdoors in nature. Sure they maybe 'canned' hunts to them but I bet you talk to any ranch manager and they would talk your ear off on how much work goes into these easy lazy hunts for the customer.

I think the idea fair chase is all a matter of opinion. Is upland hunting on horseback/ATV/UTV with a pack of 15 dogs fair chase to the birds you're after, or would it be more sporting to simply walk in with no dogs to do the work for you? Same can be said for hogs, is it really fair chase to let 20 catahoulas range out to bay the bigs then walk up and send in a catch dog or is it more sporting to spot and stalk hogs yourself. In parts of the country using deer dogs for driven hunts could be considered fair chase, but is this really fair for the animals. Does it really matter? In my opinion there is no difference HF hunting than fishing in a smaller reservoir for the end user. Different strokes for different folks.

I think high fencing has an important role in the economy of hunting by creating value in natural landscapes. I would much rather see a 5000 acre HF game ranch offering canned hunts vs a new housing development. I would also rather see canned hunts than a large corporate mono-culture modern farming operation.

The operator of a HF must be much more cognizant in managing his land/animals than someone who has a low fence ranch. I don't find HF guys to be less lazy simply because you can't be lazy. There is so much more management and work that go into a HF ranch than low fence simply because you have to make sure the habitat is right for your animals since they can't just leave.

I would love to one day run 'canned' hunts for deep pocketed customers. But this is mainly because I love working out in the outdoors in nature. Sure they maybe 'canned' hunts to them but I bet you talk to any ranch manager and they would talk your ear off on how much work goes into these easy lazy hunts for the customer.

Don't need a HF to run canned hunts I assure you.

Definition of "Canned Hunt" - a trophy hunt in which an animal is kept in a confined area, such as in a fenced-in area, increasing the likelihood of the hunter obtaining a kill

And here I thought canned ment 100% success one a defined deer....

I have been thinking about doing something this next year. I keep hearing from the anti HF crowd that hunting a HF is like shooting fish in a barrel. I have an at least 30" Axis in about a 250 acre HF pasture. He is going to drop his antlers soon. When he grows them back he should be well over 30". I was thinking about making a deal. You give me $750 and I will let you in the pasture and you get from daylight to dark to hunt that one day.. If you get him you made a heck of a deal. If not I made $750.

You can't use logic here. It's all the same, you see. All hunts are canned, all deer are bought, it's all the same.....the HF makes no difference. Pretty soon they'll be telling you how much harder it is in HF.

Don't worry, most know exactly what you are saying and agree. Our eyes are open. We know what we see. It's just not worth arguing about anymore except for the "it's all the samers".

If you think all the big LF bucks you see killed are "100% success" on a defined deer - you are living in an illusion. Your comments cheapen the experiences of every one of those hunters.

I love hunting my HF. Bucks are able to mature and the ratio is 1:1. Sometimes I see deer, sometimes I don't. Finally get to see what the native deer can look like at the age of 6-7, instead of 2.5-3.5 like it was when we were low fenced. The deer become tame and dumb once the fence went up. They all got the memo