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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
[Re: J.G.]
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10/10/15 04:35 AM
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 I've shot out a .260 Rem. And am halfway through a 6.5 Creedmoor. How many was rounds is that???
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 04:41 AM
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I have shot out one barrel in my life...it was a 25-06, in a Ruger 77..I bought it second hand...when I was shooting a bunch. I put maybe 1200 rounds thru it...don't know how many before, probably 200-300 before me. I have a friend in Germany, that runs the shooting cinema at Blaser...they have a 8x57 barrel that has over 6,000 rounds thru it...it will still hold MOA...good barrel, or good steel quality I guess...
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 05:04 AM
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For the first time in 17 years Weatherby is coming out with a new hit rod. 6.5x300 WBY. It shoots a 130 grain bullet 130 FPS faster than 26 Nosler and a 140 grain 101 faster. It will be in an Accumark to start. They also have reworked the MK V action and trigger and the triggers are very crisp and will come set between 3 and 3.2 lbs. with no creep. The trigger on a MK V has long been a sticking point with Weatherby users and now they one of the best on a production gun. So Weatherby finally did what Weatherby fans have been saying for years. We've always wanted them to neck down the 300 case to 7mm, 270 and 6,5, it only took them 60 year's to get the message.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 10:47 AM
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It seems like a natural.
Long-range shooting is popular, and 6.5's are popular...
Weatherby is famous for being the biggest and the baddest.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:06 PM
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 I've shot out a .260 Rem. And am halfway through a 6.5 Creedmoor. How many was rounds is that??? 2500 on the .260 Rem, and I have 1200 on the 6.5 Creedmoor. That is because if a person wants to be proficient at shooting distance then they need to practice, so I practice.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:12 PM
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 I've shot out a .260 Rem. And am halfway through a 6.5 Creedmoor. How many was rounds is that??? 2500 on the .260 Rem, and I have 1200 on the 6.5 Creedmoor. That is because if a person wants to be proficient at shooting distance then they need to practice, so I practice. You might want to think about QPQ i(melonite) your barrels..it will make them last 2x 3x longer if you do that much shooting...$150 worth of QPQ could save you a little longer on a $400 dollar barrel, with another $300 worth of gunsmithing... Ed
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:19 PM
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Some people predict the barrel life at less than 800-900 for this new round, in some circumstances...
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:27 PM
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Some people predict the barrel life at less than 800-900 for this new round, in some circumstances... Who are some people?
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:30 PM
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Some people predict the barrel life at less than 800-900 for this new round, in some circumstances... Who are some people? Well our resident reloader expert and some of the people that reviewed the gun and spoke with wetherby about it
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:30 PM
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Some people predict the barrel life at less than 800-900 for this new round, in some circumstances... Not a problem for me, I doubt any of my Weatherby's will see 200 rounds before I die. Considering my age a new 6.5-300 will see well less than 100 rounds.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:31 PM
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Some people predict the barrel life at less than 800-900 for this new round, in some circumstances... I will prolly shoot my weatherby 3-4 times a year so it's gonna take me 200 years to wear it out Imo this round makes more sense than the .270 and 7mm wby mags
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:35 PM
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You can shoot out a barrel on a 22-250 in a day on a prairie dog town if the shooting is fast and you do not let the barrel cool down.
Heat is a big factor in shooting out a barrel, cool it off between each series of shots and the barrel will last a lot longer. Generally the more powder burned relative the bore size the faster a barrel will heat up.
The way most will shoot a big overbore round like the new one from Weatherby is slow fire and if allowed to cool between say 3 shot groups the higher the round count will be before accuracy degrades if it ever does for the owner.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 01:43 PM
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140's and 130's don't excite me but something in 100 or 95 damn sure would. A 100 grain Nosler Partition would be most excellent.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 02:00 PM
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I'll just stick with my Tikka 260. If I need more grunt than that, I'll drag out the 270. At 400 yards I'd say the 6.5-300 will be traveling as fast as your 260 does at the barrel.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 02:05 PM
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Just a question, how many here using modern ammo and rifles have "shot out" a magnum rifle barrel? I imagine a few probably have but every time a new hot rod rifle caliber comes out some of the first comments are "it's going to be a barrel burner" the same comments were used during the introduction of the .264mag among others from back in the day using different alloys of steel and powders that weren't nearly as efficient and probably did burn some barrels out. I've shot the .264win pushing hot loads for years and years with no noticeable loss of accuracy or barrel damage. I run a bore scope down it every so often and I can only notice maybe the slightest bit of erosion. I think the 26 Weatherby round is probably a good introduction for them considering all of the love of the 26 caliber over the last few years. I've never had any variety of 6.5 so I just had a 26 Nosler built. It will be a hunting rifle and not a frequent paper puncher. I'm 61 years old so I'm pretty sure that the barrel will outlast me!
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 02:21 PM
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Just a question, how many here using modern ammo and rifles have "shot out" a magnum rifle barrel? …  I've shot out a .260 Rem. I have shot out one barrel in my life...it was a 25-06, in a Ruger 77.. I understand that target accuracy can dictate a barrel’s life. Benchrest shooters scrap a barrel when it begins to open up a few tenths of an inch. I’m not trying to be critical, just curious, but what makes a person decide the barrel is shot out? Especially on a hunting round, like a Weatherby. If you had a Rem 700 7mm Mag in beautiful shape but with 2,500 rounds through it & it shot 2” groups, would you sell it to a hunting buddy? Heavily discount it? Give fair warning?
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 02:53 PM
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If it couldn't do better than 2" groups I'd rebarrel it.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 03:06 PM
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 03:34 PM
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260. Exactly my thinking.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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Just a question, how many here using modern ammo and rifles have "shot out" a magnum rifle barrel? …  I've shot out a .260 Rem. I have shot out one barrel in my life...it was a 25-06, in a Ruger 77.. I understand that target accuracy can dictate a barrel’s life. Benchrest shooters scrap a barrel when it begins to open up a few tenths of an inch. I’m not trying to be critical, just curious, but what makes a person decide the barrel is shot out? Especially on a hunting round, like a Weatherby. If you had a Rem 700 7mm Mag in beautiful shape but with 2,500 rounds through it & it shot 2” groups, would you sell it to a hunting buddy? Heavily discount it? Give fair warning? Complete loss of consistency. A rifle that used to put five in half an inch at 100, went to 2". I sold the entire rifle and told the buy the barrel is done, it needs a new barrel. He took my word for it and said he would have it rebarreled. Course not everyone will be so honest. The .22-250 has been shot out also, and I put a new barrel on it. The old barrel is nothing more than steel to pound into a knife.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260. Might be they're already proficient with rifles and calibers with that type velocities and have been for over 40 year's.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 03:45 PM
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260. Might be they're already proficient with rifles and calibers with that type velocities and have been for over 40 year's. I've never seen my dad miss with a rifle, and at best he shot a couple times a year before deer season to check his zero. He was able to drop deer out 400 yards, and never used a range finder or turned any knobs on his cheap Simmons scope.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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Not everyone has to shoot three boxes of shells a year to be able to go and kill animials
I shot my .270 twice about a week ago to check it before I go on an elk hunt....first time that gun has been shot at paper in I don't know how long. last 7 times it was shot prior to that was all into animals. I would imagine it hadn't been shot at paper in a few years prior to those 7
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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10/10/15 03:51 PM
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260. Might be they're already proficient with rifles and calibers with that type velocities and have been for over 40 year's. Exactly. Plus, "proficiency" is a relative term. Maybe to you, proficiency is the ability to compensate for drop and wind out to a thousand yards, and shoot MOA groups from the kneeling position. To others, proficiency is to be able to hit a target 1/2-3/4 the size of a game animals vitals out to the extent of a gun's point blank range, from a improvised rest in field conditions. With an accurate rifle, most hunters can realistically expect to pull a gun out and fire it for the first time since the last season and still shoot at least that well. So you go to the range, confirm it's still on, and save your shells to put meat on the table and a trophy on the wall. Not everyone has the time, money, or even the desire to go out every weekend and shoot steel at over 600 yards. Most of us don't even have a place like that to go.
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Re: New Weatherby Caliber
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So...let's see if I understand this caliber and its usage. It's for long range shooting (traveling as fast at 400 as my poor little 260 is at the muzzle, per HwyMan), but it's probably only going to be shot a couple of times per year by the folks that buy it. How will that help them be proficient with the rifle and cartridge? Maybe they'll practice with a 260. Might be they're already proficient with rifles and calibers with that type velocities and have been for over 40 year's. I've never seen my dad miss with a rifle, and at best he shot a couple times a year before deer season to check his zero. He was able to drop deer out 400 yards, and never used a range finder or turned any knobs on his cheap Simmons scope. Guys like that have natural talent. And just like any other thing in life it is the exception, not the rule. The rest of us have to work at it, to be as good as we would like to be.
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