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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: kdkane1971]
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06/19/15 08:45 PM
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. Thanks for contributing such thought provoking insight. 800 deer on 200 acres, that is a feedlot, not a wildlife preserve. Feedlots are agricultural entities. From the article. Yoder, who did not reply to several phone calls, is in danger of losing a herd of close to 800 deer on his three farms covering more than 200 acres. The preserve is at 7391 County Road 203
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: dogcatcher]
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06/19/15 09:06 PM
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Happens every day from scabies in sheep, fever ticks, to king ranch horses... It's very interesting on the back end... I wonder how many ranchers would be as lenient if this was diseased cattle being brought in next to their land holdings??? The owner appears to be one that feels he is above the laws. http://www.cleveland.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2014/12/holmes_county_deer_hunting_pre.htmlThe ODA cited problems with record keeping by Yoder, as well as Yoder violating the quarantine by moving captive deer from the facility to his nearby Honey Run Farm on Nov. 12. The most troubling problem, said ODA Communications Director Erica Hawkins, was the discovery deer had escaped from World Class Whitetails Hunting Preserve since the quarantine.
"Transferring deer to Honey Run Farm was a clear violation of the quarantine," said Hawkins. "Yoder willfully violated the terms of the quarantine, and we've also had chronic record-keeping issues with him. The last straw was deer escaping from his property. That could allow the disease to potentially spread to hundreds of thousands of wild animals in the state."
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: dogcatcher]
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06/19/15 09:09 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. Thanks for contributing such thought provoking insight. 800 deer on 200 acres, that is a feedlot, not a wildlife preserve. Feedlots are agricultural entities. From the article. Yoder, who did not reply to several phone calls, is in danger of losing a herd of close to 800 deer on his three farms covering more than 200 acres. The preserve is at 7391 County Road 203 He has more then two hundred acres from my understanding. Hard to gather info from just one article. From my understanding the infraction in agruement was over horns leaving not whole deer. Be interesting to see how it plays out. A one and done test will sure fix the peeing matches. Hope it comes out soon.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Curtis]
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06/19/15 09:16 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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"We have evidence that he was breaking the terms of that quarantine, which is very troubling given that chronic wasting disease positive was found on the farm,"
I'm concerned what exactly was he doing and what this evidence is that they are referring to. What is this evidence that they claim to have? Yelp
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/19/15 10:05 PM
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Seems like draconian measures......but that's common when State Agencies get involved and there is a "hint" of CWD.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/19/15 10:10 PM
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He is a deer breeder also, hence high numbers on low acreage. Lot more to this than what is being reported would be my guess.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/19/15 10:49 PM
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Man it's all over the News up there..
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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06/19/15 11:21 PM
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don k
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. And just when people had forgotten how you are and were starting to like you. You have to say this. Oh well.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: don k]
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06/19/15 11:43 PM
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. And just when people had forgotten how you are and were starting to like you. You have to say this. Oh well. I don't think anyone will be shocked at my take on it. Nor yours or many others, pro or con. And, unlike many, I don't post worrying about winning a popularity contest. Never have, never will.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/19/15 11:53 PM
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Sad the way government agencies regulate things. But that's what happens when you hire unqualified people and put them in power positions.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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06/19/15 11:59 PM
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. But it's not, won't be and you don't own this site so move along. Oh, I forgot you owned it. Sorry boss. I won't bring up that your position is that they are all livestock. (Oops.) Do you get upset when they have to kill infected cattle herds with communicable diseases? Or the Montana bighorn herd with pneumonia? It happens sometimes. All else being equal, I'll side with the LEOs trying to protect the wildlife herds overall.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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06/20/15 12:08 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. But it's not, won't be and you don't own this site so move along. Oh, I forgot you owned it. Sorry boss. I won't bring up that your position is that they are all livestock. (Oops.) Do you get upset when they have to kill infected cattle herds with communicable diseases? Or the Montana bighorn herd with pneumonia? It happens sometimes. All else being equal, I'll side with the LEOs trying to protect the wildlife herds overall. Guess you didnt read the rules.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 12:39 AM
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800 deer in 200 acres? I would call that a target rich environment for sure.
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: TXHOGSLAYER]
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06/20/15 12:42 AM
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800 deer in 200 acres? I would call that a target rich environment for sure.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 01:13 AM
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From the USDA site on current testing. CWD Diagnostics Last Modified: Apr 7, 2015
The "gold standard" diagnostic test for CWD is the Immunohistochemistry (IHC) test performed on the obex tissue of the brain (photo left) and specific lymphoid tissues. IHC testing is a an antibody based staining which is evaluated using light microscopy. This test is both sensitive and specific. In addition, the microscopic methods used to detect positive staining also allow confirmation that the correct tissue and location within the tissue are present to detect the earliest accumulations of the prion agent. IHC is used by the National Veterinary Services Laboratories (NVSL) to confirm the presence of CWD prions in positive tissues and is an official test of the APHIS Approved State CWD herd certification program (HCP).
In December 2012, APHIS approved the Bio-RAD™ CWD enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) as an official test screening test on obex and lymph node tissues collected for routine CWD surveillance of farmed cervids enrolled in the Approved State CWD HCP. Any non-negative ELISA results will be confirmed by NVSL using immunohistochemistry.
The USDA Center for Veterinary Biologics (CVB) permits the use of the Bio-RAD™ CWD ELISA test in the United States and restricts its sale and use to laboratories approved by State and Federal animal health officials. CWD testing can only be performed by approved laboratories that are part of the USDA's National Animal Health Laboratory Network system.
Other diagnostic tests and technologies that allow more rapid testing of larger numbers of samples continue to be developed. A rectal associated mucosal lymphoid tissue (RAMALT) biopsy (live-animal) test has been developed by researchers and appears to hold promise for future use in certain CWD monitoring or management situations in farmed cervids. This technique utilizes the current IHC testing technologies described above. The RAMALT is not currently approved as an official test for CWD.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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06/20/15 01:58 AM
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Meh. All this should be on livestock/ag forum instead of a hunting forum. But it's not, won't be and you don't own this site so move along. Oh, I forgot you owned it. Sorry boss. I won't bring up that your position is that they are all livestock. (Oops.) Do you get upset when they have to kill infected cattle herds with communicable diseases? Or the Montana bighorn herd with pneumonia? It happens sometimes. All else being equal, I'll side with the LEOs trying to protect the wildlife herds overall. Guess you didnt read the rules. What rule or rules or you referring to?
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 01:58 AM
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 02:03 AM
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Is this like parvo to dogs?
Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: BOONER]
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06/20/15 02:12 AM
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What rule or rules or you referring to? I believe this rule Moderation is interpretation. If a moderator contacts you about changing a behavior, please just do it and don't try and debate the rules and guidelines that follow. Our moderators know how we want our forums managed. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, email thf@outdoorsites.net.
for every stereotype there's a prototype don't be the prototype
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: nsmike]
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06/20/15 02:51 AM
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What rule or rules or you referring to? I believe this rule Moderation is interpretation. If a moderator contacts you about changing a behavior, please just do it and don't try and debate the rules and guidelines that follow. Our moderators know how we want our forums managed. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, email thf@outdoorsites.net.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 02:56 AM
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6. Don’t “call out” the moderators on the forum. They have a tough job and don’t need to be chastised to the viewing audience. The moderators are volunteers and choose to moderate because they enjoy the THF. Please try and keep the site enjoyable for them. You may not agree with all their decisions, but they have been chosen because they have shown good judgment in the past and a sensible demeanor. If you have problems with a moderator, email thf@outdoorsites.net.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: BuckRage]
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06/20/15 03:00 AM
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6. Don’t “call out” the moderators on the forum. They have a tough job and don’t need to be chastised to the viewing audience. The moderators are volunteers and choose to moderate because they enjoy the THF. Please try and keep the site enjoyable for them. You may not agree with all their decisions, but they have been chosen because they have shown good judgment in the past and a sensible demeanor. If you have problems with a moderator, email thf@outdoorsites.net. Well said Buck, the constant stir stick gets old and protection 8. We promote a friendly atmosphere for hunters to exchange ideas. Differences of opinions are welcome and are an important part of this format. We do not, however, tolerate those that try to start an argument with every post. If you are looking to agitate people, simply to get a response or if you are a troller, this is not the place for you.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Chief Joe]
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06/20/15 03:02 AM
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Now ...if there are any good sheds in that herd, give me a call
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: nsmike]
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06/20/15 03:54 AM
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What rule or rules or you referring to? I believe this rule Moderation is interpretation. If a moderator contacts you about changing a behavior, please just do it and don't try and debate the rules and guidelines that follow. Our moderators know how we want our forums managed. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, email thf@outdoorsites.net. Well I didn't read it that way. I didn't read it as "contact about changing a behavior". I read it as a member who disagreed with my point of view on the subject at hand. I am/was discussing the subject at hand. Nothing more or less.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: 500 Ohio deer killed
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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06/20/15 05:06 AM
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Sad the way government agencies regulate things. But that's what happens when you hire unqualified people and put them in power positions. Bingo. And I would add, they are just like other over rated "scientific" communities that protect their power and influence by inventing conclusions to support a flawed hypothesis.
Crotchety old bastidge
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