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I feel like either caliber is plenty capable of the job. I don't care much for the fail safes, Ive had expansion problems with most monometal bullets and the fail safes will behave very similarly. If you have to shoot at any kind of distance where the bullet has slowed down a little it will probably perform worse. A-frames are good bullets, but also pretty spendy.
I would echo HWY_Man and recommend a partition in either and your good to go. I have read a few articles where the 150 grain partition in 270 is noted for exceptional penetration. I haven't seen a lot of partitions loaded on our local shelves however I do see a lot of A-Frames which is why I chose them. there is almost no difference between an A-frame and a partition. your right about the fail-safes performing much like a monometal bullet...but I would put it in their shoulders and I don't want them running off.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Dumb question. Buy a box of ammo and take the 7. If you don't use your 7 rem for colordo elk hunting, then what are you goi to do with it?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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I feel like either caliber is plenty capable of the job. I don't care much for the fail safes, Ive had expansion problems with most monometal bullets and the fail safes will behave very similarly. If you have to shoot at any kind of distance where the bullet has slowed down a little it will probably perform worse. A-frames are good bullets, but also pretty spendy.
I would echo HWY_Man and recommend a partition in either and your good to go. I have read a few articles where the 150 grain partition in 270 is noted for exceptional penetration. I haven't seen a lot of partitions loaded on our local shelves however I do see a lot of A-Frames which is why I chose them. there is almost no difference between an A-frame and a partition. your right about the fail-safes performing much like a monometal bullet...but I would put it in their shoulders and I don't want them running off. Put that mono metal in shoulder and its gtg in my opinion. Main difference between partition and A-frame is the A-frame has a bonded lead core like an accubond plus the partition. The ones I have shot Didn't expand quite as readily on deer sized critters.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Quit being a tightwad and go buy you a 300wm, send it off for accurizing & load development with 180gr Accubonds and have them load you 1000 rounds. In 2050 you should still have a few hundred rounds so this is more of an investment opportunity.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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I have killed several elk and more African game with the A-Frame. The A-Frame has a bonded core and thicker jackets. I personally prefer the 30 caliber 180 Grain bullet but in 7mm the 160 will be just fine. It is also a good choice to expand regardless of the animal tissue you hit in an elk.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Dumb question. Buy a box of ammo and take the 7. If you don't use your 7 rem for colordo elk hunting, then what are you goi to do with it? I bought it to shoot Nilgai with
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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I love when these simple threads get out of control... I am building me a 28 nosher, Defiance Horizon action, Benchmark carbon barrel McMillan Game scout stock. Huber concepts trigger. Already have 175 gran LR accubonds and brass. Just waiting on the reamer to show up any day.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Dumb question. Buy a box of ammo and take the 7. If you don't use your 7 rem for colordo elk hunting, then what are you goi to do with it? I bought it to shoot Nilgai with Your 270 is fine for nilga.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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I love when these simple threads get out of control.
Yup! txtrophy85 asked 270 or 7 Rem Mag. And we've entered into a cartridge debate as well as a bullet debate. He's got two good chamberings, one better than the other. Use the better one, done. No need to buy or build another rifle, no need to swap bullets. All the praises of the .30-06 for everything North American, and the 7 Rme Mag will out run it and out hit it. Run what you brung.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Is 30-06 better than 270 win?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Is 30-06 better than 270 win? "Better" is about persective.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Dumb question. Buy a box of ammo and take the 7. If you don't use your 7 rem for colordo elk hunting, then what are you goi to do with it? I bought it to shoot Nilgai with Your 270 is fine for nilga. Have you ever killed an elk or a Nilgai? How about anything with a .270 or 7mm?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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I love when these simple threads get out of control.
Yup! txtrophy85 asked 270 or 7 Rem Mag. And we've entered into a cartridge debate as well as a bullet debate. He's got two good chamberings, one better than the other. Use the better one, done. No need to buy or build another rifle, no need to swap bullets. All the praises of the .30-06 for everything North American, and the 7 Rme Mag will out run it and out hit it. Run what you brung. We all know secretly he is wanting some advice to buy a new rife, even admitted the 7mag was just to shoot nilgai..... 
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that Sure, as long as you're good at stalking in close 
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Is 30-06 better than 270 win? Got both, for the hunting I do I use them interchangeably.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that Now we have to know why that one wasn't thrown in the mix of options.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that Now we have to know why that one wasn't thrown in the mix of options. Because it sucks next to a 7 Rem Mag.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that Now we have to know why that one wasn't thrown in the mix of options. I have faith in the round just not for elk....need to throw a heavier chunk of lead
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Fair enough, I won't even take mine on a muley hunt.
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Re: Cartridge Combo for Elk?
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Yall keep it up I'll bring my .257 wby and shoot it with that .223 behind the ear and they're DRT. Everybody says so. 
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