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 Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hunter-Steve]
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03/30/15 05:15 PM
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Dial for reliability and EMP proof. I replaced the electronic due to several faults. After a few months of opening with the dial I can open the safe just as fast as electronic replaced just the electronic lock with a dial or the entire safe? how bad was the cost if it was just the lock replacement? I keep thinking i'd rather have dial just to avoid issue of electronics going out on me one day.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/30/15 05:43 PM
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I like the dial or maybe electronic with a backup key.
Definitely no Biometric thumb print, super easy to defeat.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/30/15 07:05 PM
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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03/30/15 07:47 PM
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Electronic. I also like computers more than typewriters, cars more than bicycles, and the NFL more than NCAA football. I was with you until that last part!
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/30/15 09:38 PM
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Ours is electric... because we never thought about it.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/31/15 03:12 AM
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My safes are dial, but then I'm old school.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/31/15 11:10 AM
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Dial - laugh now but when a emp or electric solar flare hits and half these people can't get in their safes we will se who's laughing.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/31/15 11:21 AM
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Dial. If something works low-tech, I stick with it. Plus, my brain needs all the exercise it can get and the dial makes it work just a little bit harder.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/31/15 05:07 PM
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digital, I can open it in the dark and that is important since mine is in the back of a closet and I need a flashlight to see the numbers.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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03/31/15 05:49 PM
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One of mine is a dial and the other is electronic. I like the electronic better in general but they can have problems. I had the solenoid go out on mine, luckily mine has a back up key to bypass the keypad. The solenoid couldn't be replaced without opening the door
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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04/01/15 07:32 PM
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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04/03/15 12:56 AM
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I have the dial right now. But would not be opposed to the electronic lock, as long as there was a backup plan for electronic failure...
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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04/03/15 09:26 PM
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Dial. Sure it's slower, but more reliable. I know 2 friends that batteries went out, and had issues getting into their safes. ^This happened to a family friend. They have 5 safes all with electronic locks. 2 of the safes had locks malfunction and lock him out of his safe.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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04/06/15 01:42 AM
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Dial, the old school locksmith in town said he really likes the digital gun safes, they make up a decent portion of his buisiness.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Colt W. Knight]
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04/06/15 08:57 PM
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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04/06/15 10:06 PM
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Spent Brass]
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04/08/15 02:00 PM
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it. the dual lock is what i wish i had gotten in hindsight.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: rentzington]
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04/08/15 06:00 PM
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it. the dual lock is what i wish i had gotten in hindsight. You can still get it as long as your safe has a standard footprint. It's an easy retrofit.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Hirogen]
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04/08/15 08:51 PM
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Electric with keyed backups. This is what I have and I can get into it in under 2 seconds.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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04/08/15 11:42 PM
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Dial all the way. I am not worried about speed of getting into it, just security.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
[Re: Spent Brass]
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04/09/15 01:09 AM
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it. the dual lock is what i wish i had gotten in hindsight. You can still get it as long as your safe has a standard footprint. It's an easy retrofit. I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it. the dual lock is what i wish i had gotten in hindsight. You can still get it as long as your safe has a standard footprint. It's an easy retrofit. Interesting. My rhino safe has a securam electronic lock, I should look into this. Something that requires a locksmith?
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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If you have any mechanical aptitude you can do it. Just read and follow the directions CAREFULLY and you'll be fine. Otherwise hire it done.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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Electric. Simply for quick access. Same here. Though I wish there was a combo system or a fail safe key in case of massive electronic failure.
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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Re: Safe Combination - Dial or Electronic?
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I would be interested in hearing what a locksmith or safe warranty guy had to say about digital versus analog. I wonder if its just a matter or low end stuff sucks versus higher end, or if they see more repairs one type or the other.
I bet cheap safes you buy at the box stores are a lot more prone to breaking when compared to Ft. Knox and Liberty. This is the correct answer. I've been servicing safes for 15 years and there is a difference. The "box" stores have pounded the safe manufacturers into building cheaper locks, which is why some of you have key bypass on your safes. A true UL Residential Security Container will have no "bypass" to open the safe. As far as dial vs. electronic - they both are man made and will fail. Most failures fall into 2 categories: User error: Spinning the dial like a top. Never spin the dial any faster than you can turn your wrist. Impatience: Entering the numbers too fast or incorrectly and causing a lockout, which left alone, will reset usually in 10-15 minutes. The best lock I've seen to this point is the SecuRam SafeLogic Xtreme. You get a keypad for easy entry, and a dial for emergency, all in the same lock. Unless the keypad is completely knocked off the door, you can get to your stuff. You can't get locked out of it. Do you know where I can get one of these? I found one site that has it for $232.70 without the bluetooth option(That is an extra $115) Is that a good price?
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