My .228 zero was X +29 Y +18 with .248 it is now X -85 Y -55

Works as it should

HTxH, did you get a chance to play around with the night mode and see if the flickering has been reduced/eliminated?

Was anxiously awaiting your review from this latest FW update. Glad it seems to work well with zoom not affecting reticle "walk"

I have been patiently waiting to put my scope into service with all this FW updating going on. So far this update (.248) seems to be the most usable and fixes the most issues while also shitting some features down temporarily. But, if this seems to be a very workable fix for now, it may be time to get the scope into service and zero it and hunt with it.

Daytime field of view test between the 3x and 5x

I am working on the video now Bob

So tonight I lived the phrase "Do My Eyes Deceive Me?"

And as I put this test video together I find that it raises more questions than answers about a great many things.

I can best sum it up it this statement:

You've got to wonder what the TRUE potential is for digital night vision, right now - tonight, not ten years from now but NOW NOW!

What am I babbling about?

When I reviewed the video footage from this weekend's field testing of the ATN X-sight I was shocked to observe Gen 2 perhaps Gen 3 performance relative to distance and clarity.

When you watch the video I can tell you that the tree line in the background is 468 yards away and I can make out individual mesquite tree clusters in the recorded video. THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERFORMANCE I HAVE BEEN YEARNING FOR in a digital scope.

But it doesn't correlate with what I was seeing in the field at the time of actual use so I'll rely on your testing and feedback to either dispute what I think it is I'm seeing or validate it.

I have to tell you that sleeping is going to be difficult tonight because I know the potential is there, it is inside the scope as it sits to render a bright/clear image to nearly 500 yards.

How come it isn't passing through to the viewfinder, can we get an ANSWER to that QUESTION?

I'll take flickering all night if I can see that far....

Here is the video:

I'm in total agreement. In the viewfinder at my range I have a difficult to impossible task of viewing at 200yds. In the video I could clearly identify and kill at that range at night.

How do we get the viewfinder image to come close to matching the recorded image?

Hiya Fred -

I wonder if feeding the signal from the HDMI out to a native HD quality display will yield the same results, realtime without image lag.

Too bad the rear components of the X-sight isn't modular, i.e. you take out the current near eye display and "drop in" a HD one.

Unfortunately I don't know that we'll ever see the current viewfinder perform inline with the elements evident in video output file.

New X-Sight 3-12X in today, upgraded firmware from .228(factory installed)
to .248, no problem with install and WIFI is working as it should.
No bootloop or other fuzz at all.

/MKL

A clue may be found from the original prototype that didn't have the video out working. I could see way past 300 yards in the viewfinder with it using a T20 style illuminator. Just a thought...

I went from .228 to the FW released 3-27, .248 I guess it is.
I think achieving sub MOA groups at 100 yards using no zoom is really just luck.
The reticle I'm using consumes almost 1 MOA in the FOV at 100 yards.
So in this new FW, when you set your zero, does the reticle move to the center of the screen when you back out of the zero menu? Meaning I can remove my shims, use the internal zero set up, and my reticle will be center of screen once zero is set? Or, does it only shift to center screen when applying zoom?

Just saw this thread so I'll post here too in response to HuntTXHogs:

Do you think they would intentionally lower the video quality of the scope due to the fact that it competes with the higher end NV models they sell?

Did you observe the same clarity in the view finder when zoomed in at 100 yards
as compared to the clarity in the video? When I zoomed at 100 yards, onece I moved closer toward the maximum zoom magnification, the target image in the view finder became distorted fairly significantly. When I updated the FW, I didn't check the resolution afterward. Maybe it wasn't set on 1080p.

Anyone experience problems with viewing recorded content.
New scope reboots when trying to access that menu.

/MKL

I've still yet to experience that phenomenom, I can eek out 250 - 300 on the viewfinder fiddling extensively with the IR beam intentionally throwing it high and far beyond the target. Not really practical for shooting at that distance and certainly not for panning and scanning a field. Would be nice if my viewfinder worked like yours, huh?



I havent the slightest



I didn't test that, i can confirm later - here are some other observations I made during testing that I didn't cover in the videos above

• No option for 720p @ 60 hz

• When you switch from night to day mode in the daytime the screen goes bright white, a reboot is required

• WiFi causes the scope to hang/freeze - no way to fix outside of reverting to a previous build

• Microphone is muted although I select ON in the menu

Great videos as usual.

The short answer here is NO.

There are 2 major components on the back end of the X-sight that will cause some loss or variance to what you see in the recorded videos.

1) The 640 res screen just technically cannot match the high def sensor and assoicated digital output
2) The eye piece, which I do not love on this product as it has some strange "smudge" (optical smudge??) directly in the center that i find myself trying to look around as opposed to through.

2a) I am a corrective lens wearing guy too so depending on the scratches on my lens and dirt etc that will effect what I see at the viewfinder as well - so maybe somebody at less of a disadvantage will chime in on your question.

New scope have working WIFI, old one got into bootloop when turning
WIFI on.
Reverted new scope to beta .246 and no more problems with Recorded
Content menu and WIFI's still working
Setting scope to 720p is not working, i have not tried the mic yet.

/MKL

Well then. I thought I was the only one who had the center screen vetical smudge.
I wear corrective lenses as well, bi-focal progressive lenses. The challenge is always
getting my glasses, my eye, and view finder aligned in sync. I was rsearching thermal scopes again last night. One product stated I could use the scopes focus tools and
not have to wear my glasses. I don't recall which product it was though. I may have misinterpreted what it said also.

Mine has the smudge also.

I also have the smudge! Let's start another thread!!! Bwahaha

Well, my production unit doesn't work like that currently. My point was that, just an observation, when we had the prototype the viewfinder image was much better and it also coincided with the video out not being functional. I don't know what was changed, I just know it did.

I can't check at the moment because I'm returning my 5x for the wider fov of a 3x. Have you tried hooking up the hdmi to a tv? or is this port just for playback?

I believe that the change came in the .228 update when the contrast issue showed its head. I dont think they are related but when we got the 246b and the 248final it seems that the image in the viewfinder vs the video as Ben and you stated are worlds apart. Being the on-board screen wont or cant handle the hd that the unit is capable of will probably end up being the culprit IMO.
The latest update as to functionality is definitely a step in the right direction and looks very promising. Personally I dont need the extras that are disabled but they were advertised so hopefully they will get around to that next.
I have noticed from some of the comments that the earlier models (no serial # like mine) are having issues with the wifi going into a loop, maybe a different processor from the previous ones?
With the t-67 and the t50 I can observe out to 900 and 750 respectively. I haven't tried the t-20 yet and my illuminator that came with it blew a gasket and is nonfunctional sine about a week after getting the scope in DEC
Zeroing after the .228 is a breeze now and on takes 2 shots to get it back to where its acceptable for an average person. Only thing Im not liking is that when adjusting for zero you have certain point that the X and Y will skip numbers, I havent seen anyone post on this issue maybe its just mine, dunno.
Battery life is definitely improved over the last releases.

X and Y Mine skips over 32 goes from 31 to 33