Got everything for the 6 creed except the dies. Looks like everyone is backordered. Dang the bad luck.

I'm not a BR or LR guy, but I've been shooting the 6mm Remington for many years. The velocities tossed around in this thread are easily obtainable by the Remmy. It also kills animals....my widest mule deer, a 30" Paunsagunt buck, fell to one shot with a 100 Nosler PT. Several .243s I've owned over the years are almost as fast as the Creedmoor and Remington, and components are much easier to find.

So my question. Is there something magical about the Creedmoor that gives it a tangible advantage over the other similar cartridges we've had for decades? Or is simply the "flavor of the week".

Back when Layne Simpson was writing breathlessly about his new 7mm STW, I had my perfectly capable Sendero in 7mmRM rechambered to the wildcat STW. It was fun to load for and to shoot, but it really performed no better in the hunting fields than the 7mmRM that was just as accurate. And now Nosler is rolling out their 28 Nosler amid clamoring fanfare. I haven't studied the case dimensions of the new Nosler, but it may be little different than the STW.

I know shooters have pretty much proven that short, fat powder columns are more efficient than tall, skinny ones. And magnum, high-brisance primers seem to take a back seat to less violent primers, as long as consistency is good for both.

I myself have always been a member of the "boys and their toys" group, and I can completely understand the very human worshipping of this year's Miss America, while last year's darling gets swept into the dust bin.

But again the rhetorical question...is the 6mm Creed inherently better than the 6mm Remington?

Dawaba IDK about the 6mm Remington but I have a 243. The creedmore was designed to run better in a gas gun if I am not mistaken. It is also more efficient than the 243. Same or better velocities with less powder.

Walter

I think it's just the flavor of the week. It was a toss up between the 6 creed and 243. In the end, it's the same bullet at the same velocity.

First deer rifle was a 6mm Remmy 700 that is now my brother's and I still have a 788 in 6mm. All I know is it doesn't kick much, bullet goes where I put the crosshairs, and it kills critters dead.

There are some advantages of the 6mm Creed vs 243 (not 100% sure on the 6mm Remington). The biggest one being the shoulder angle (for one you will have to trim it less often), two being more neck, less powder and can obtain very similar speeds (the 6mm Rem might be faster actually but at the cost of barrel life). As you probably already know, guys who shoot a lot are always looking for the balance of good shooting and good barrel life....the Creedmoor seems to fit that bill.

I don't see it as a flavor of the month just something different...but I can understand where guys might get that impression.

PS - I love me some cci450's

6X47 Most efficient but a little less speed one of the newer cartridges

6mm Creedmoor also one of the new kids, the case was designed around needs seen using the 260 rem in AR10 rifles. More neck for bullet tension, less taper in case with shorter body and the angle changed to 35 degrees reduces case stretching from the 30 degree neck of the 260 and 243 case. One would think from military rounds of the past a more sloped case body would feed better but the length of the body with the length of the bullet was designed for a good angle of feed for the AR10.

243 Win necked down 308 and one of the best varmint/small big game rounds and has been for years. Good solid round and one of the more popular rounds in the USA as die and ammo sales show.

6mm Remington very good round with long neck and more case capacity than the others here. It will get more velocity than the others since it has more case volume for powder and doesn't even have to run at as high or pressure to match the others. The knock on it came with Remington seeing it as more of a varmint round in the beginning of its life and used a slower twist so it did not handle the heavier bullets as well as the 243 although I have heard that for years and read it for years I have seen a couple rifles from the first year of production shoot some very small groups with 100gr factory loads. But a lot of press saying no way it would hurt sales. After a few years Remington changed the twist to a faster one than the 243 but the 243 already had a huge head start and the 6mm never caught up. Also in those days mm cartridges really did not do very well in the USA. It took a while for mm cartridges to finally catch on here.

Sorry about the ramblings of a rifle loony

Correction needed. 6, 6.5, 6.5x47 all have 30 degree shoulders. 243, 260, 7-08 have 20 degree shoulders.

And historically the 6x47 is a PIA to tune. Great for minute of deer but if you really dial one in to the 1/4 inch range it is finicky. I shoot LR benchrest with a guy who used to shoot them and has abandoned them...he did tell me he would never go without one for a deer/varmint gun though.

FWIW...I'm not impressed with my 6.5x47 and will spend some time this spring figuring out what the heck is going on. I'm convinced it's my freebore but the gunsmith is telling me he thinks it is something else. I'll figure it out or I'll have a really nice tomato stake

Oops going off of memory you are correct Sir. Looked it up on the 6mm remington and it is 26 degrees, for some reason was thinking the Creedmoor and Lapua were same as 6.5-284 Norma at 35 degrees.